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November 18, 2004 3:44 PM

Ballmer: On the Linux Hot Seat (Again)



A published report claiming that Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer told Asian government leaders that Microsoft believes that Linux violates more than 200 software patents has put the outspoken Microsoft executive on the Linux hot seat, yet again.

Microsoft officials said Ballmer's remarks were taken out of context, and are offering a transcript of his statement, to make its case.

"In short, the reporter got it wrong. This was not a Microsoft report nor is this a Microsoft 'warning,'" a Microsoft spokesman reiterated on Thursday afternoon.

Ballmer was not claiming that Microsoft itself has discovered that Linux violates more than 228 established software patents, the spokesman said. Instead, Ballmer was citing findings from a controversial study done earlier this summer by a Open source RiSK Management (OSRM), a risk-mitigation consultancy that claimed that Linux has been found to violate more than 200 software patents.

Here is the transcript of Ballmer's remarks regarding Linux and patents, supplied by Microsoft. Ballmer was addressing government representatives at the Microsoft-sponsored Asian Government Leaders summit in Singapore.



QUESTION: In Asia we're seeing a lot of support from government for open source. (Off mike.) To deal with just open source software development, because they feel that, one, national security is at stake if they can't see the source code and, secondly, because of licensing costs.



BALLMER: Let me talk a little bit about that. First, I think the most important -- if I was to leave you with one sort of top level, most important suggestion, is we recommend to all governments that they not get emotionally involved in preferring either software that comes from commercial companies or open source software. We think the most sensible policy for most governments to take is a policy of neutrality, picking the software for a given application that actually makes most sense relative to the government's needs.



On the particular issues that you highlighted, we have heard the concern, for example, on national security from a number of governments.We do license our source code to governments. Governments can look at that source code, see that source code. We actually think our software is far more secure than open source software. It is more secure because we stand behind it, because we fix it, because you actually know who builds it. Nobody ever knows who builds a piece of open source software, where it comes from, who did it.



So we understood the need by national governments and for any government represented in the room today, our people are happy to follow up and have a dialogue, if we haven't already entered into an agreement, to share our source code with you. We've done that in Russia, we've done that in a number of countries throughout Asia and I think it goes a long way to reassuring people that there is no way for Microsoft or for anybody else to have access to national secrets by using our software, so that's number one.

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Number two, on licensing costs I would say two things. First of all, I don't know that it's clear to anybody what the licensing costs are for open source. Today, people say, well, isn't it just free, but we don't know in the long run. Open source software does not today respect the intellectual property rights of any intellectual property holder. There was a report out this summer by an open source group that highlighted that Linux violates over 228 patents. Some day, for all countries that are entering WTO (World Trade Organization), somebody will come and look for money to pay for the patent rights for that intellectual property. So the licensing costs are less clear than people think today.



Second, for any piece of software, the overall cost of having it, the acquisition costs of the license is generally a very small percentage. You have to buy the software, you've got to install it, you've got to deploy it, you've got to develop for it, you've got to manage it, you've got to create and buy applications from it, and all of those costs are probably about 90 percent of the total cost, the acquisition price is probably about 10 percent of the overall cost. And on an overall cost basis, I think our products that compete with open source offer a lower total cost of ownership and I think the same is true of other commercial products versus their open source equivalents. Oracle has an open source equivalent competitor. Adobe has open source competitors. And I think that if you think of the total cost, it's often much cheaper to go ahead and pay the license cost because of all of the additional benefits in total cost of ownership that come with that.


So I think people get carried away on the issue that says, oh, it's free, free is wonderful. Certainly we have to offer you a good value. If we try to push our prices too high or we're not delivering enough innovation, our value equation won't look good.

But I think the government policy we'd recommend is to be neutral and if, I don't know, Linux works best sometimes you should use it, if Windows or Office works best sometimes you should use it. Our sales people will be happy to tell you why we think most of the time Windows is a better solution but I think you ought to let there be — you shouldn't take — taking a position open source versus commercial software is almost like taking a position on which economic model for society is better. I don't think you want to do that. I don't think this issue is worth it. I think what you really want to do is run your government efficiently and effectively, you ought to be neutral and then take a look at the products from all communities on their merits.

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