Google-Yahoo Smacks Microsoft
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News Analysis. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer can throw a chair now. I would. |
Late this afternoon, Yahoo cut the expected search deal with Google, not long after announcing the end of negotiations with Microsoft.
By all appearances, Microsoft's attempted embracea failed $44.6 billion hostile takeoverdrove Yahoo into Google's arms. According to court papers filed last week, the day before Microsoft's unsolicited bid, Yahoo's board had ruled out a search deal with Google in part because of antitrust concerns. Board members mustn't be too bothered now.
The outcome worsens Microsoft's already weakening search position. Microsoft could quickly feel the search pinch. Yahoo has got prime real estate that would expand Google's reach and almost certainly drive up its search share, which has topped 60 percent, according to ComScore.
Quite possibly because of antitrust concerns, Yahoo has loosely engaged Google:
- Paid search ads will be displayed alongside Yahoo's only in Canada and the United States.
- The agreement is nonexclusive.
- Yahoo will choose the search term queries and the pages on which they appear.
The nonexclusivity is important for passing antitrust review, although its breadth is questionable. There aren't that many other search providers whose paid search ads could appear alongside Google's and Yahoo's.
Something else, and I quote from Yahoo's press release: "The agreement applies to paid search and content match and does not apply to algorithmic search. The agreement also applies to current partners in Yahoo's publisher network." The second sentence really should send Steve chair throwing. Partner inclusion would greatly extend the amount of Web real estate on which Google paid search ads could appear.
The revenue gain isn't small, either. Just from North America placement, Yahoo expects to take in an additional $800 million annually, $250 million to $450 million in the first 12 months.
Yahoo's deal is a sell-your-soul-to-the-devil strategy, one that can only undermine its own search platform and send some publishers packing to Google. That's where there just might be an antitrust case. A nonexclusive agreement, even with Google's current search share, is within the bounds of competition allowed under the Sherman Act (This is where I make the usual qualification that I'm not a lawyer).
But the Justice Department and European Competition Commission sour real fast on price fixing. If the deal led to even the appearance of pricing fixing or gave Google substantial control over ad pricing, trustbusters would swiftly swoop in. There is reason for sensitivity, too. Economic woes are starting to hurt the broader advertising market, but, so far, the online market is largely immune.
There's real competitive response here for Microsoft, but down a forked road. Along one path, Microsoft cries holy hell to trustbusters and spotlights how the Google-Yahoo deal impacts ad pricing. Down the other path, Microsoft spreads FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) among publishers about Google increasing ad pricingoffering them something cheaper.
But the paths are divergent. If Microsoft gets more customers for lower pricing, Google could argue that the Yahoo deal hasn't driven up publisher's ad costs. If Microsoft backs off, Google might pick off many more customers while trustbusters fritter away valuable time investigating.
For certain, Microsoft should do something. After all, its unsolicited takeover bid brought together Google and Yahoo.
Related Posts:
- Icahn Talk, Why Can't Microhoo?, Microsoft Watch, June 12, 2008
- Google Search Share Surges, Live Languishes, Microsoft Watch, May 22, 2008
- Live Search Cashes In on Cashback, Microsoft Watch, May 21, 2008
- Microsoft's Yahoo Plans Advance>>08, Microsoft Watch, May 19, 2008
- Microsoft and the Yahoo Lobotomy, Microsoft Watch, May 19, 2008
- Steve Ballmer and the Microsoftdom of Yahoo, Microsoft Watch, May 18, 2008
- Icahn Yahoo Better than You, Microsoft Watch, May 15, 2008
- Readers Woo-Hoo, Boo-Hoo Microhoo, Microsoft Watch, May 8, 2008
- Yahoo: Between a Rock and a Hard Place, Microsoft Watch, May 8, 2008
- Let's Make a Deal! Please?, Microsoft Watch, May 7, 2008
- Why Didn't Microsoft Yell 'Yahoo'?, Microsoft Watch, May 5, 2008
- Where's the Yahoo Shareholder Revolt?, Microsoft Watch, May 5, 2008
- Will He Stay or Will He Go?, Microsoft Watch, May 5, 2008
- Translating Steve's Letter to Jerry, Microsoft Watch, May 5, 2008
- The Microsoft-Yahoo Blame Game, Microsoft Watch, May 3, 2008
- What Steve Said to Jerry, Microsoft Watch, May 3, 2008
- Microsoft Boo-Hoos Yahoo, Microsoft Watch, May 3, 2008
- Open Letter to Steve Ballmer, Microsoft Watch, May 1, 2008


Comments (55)
Way to go Steve. Your finessed arrogance has brought Microsoft to a baptism of fire by irrelevance.
Money seems to be everything to most people. But, you can't buy genius. You can only rent it. And those you've muscled into giving you a cushy lair have let the air out of your mattress and you're finding all you have to lay on is cheap plastic and a wooden frame.
Losing much is worse than losing all.
When Microsoft learns this proverb the shareholders you've swindled will strip you of your dominion.
Posted by portuno | June 12, 2008 11:59 PM
"But, you can't buy genius. You can only rent it."
(In Microsoft's case...License it)
"Losing much is worse than losing all."
"When Microsoft learns this proverb the shareholders you've swindled will strip you of your dominion."
(I predict this too, take a look at the mass defections from Microsoft just this week. SunCorp announced that 20,000 desktops will go open source. Another 1000 school desktops in B.C. Canada are going Linux, and the E.U. ordered member states to all move to open source.
There are some interesting observations, notice how Mr. Gates is leaving MSFT June 30, the same day XP is set to expire at retail. Thus leaving Mr. Ballmer and his Vista to carry Microsoft. This throughout the second half of the year while millions of tiny PC's with more than half of them running Linux are about to released on the public.)
Posted by Ralph | June 13, 2008 4:24 AM
I am going to have a good Friday now. This means that Linux, along with other programs / competitors, has one less hurdle to jump (the IE / M$ web).
I wish the best of luck to Yahoogle, especially the programmers and management. Please remember all of your users, and always share "that sweet smell of success" with us.
Posted by ZzarkLinux | June 13, 2008 8:20 AM
Joe, I understand why Steve Ballmer would want to throw a chair. But why would you want to?
I simply do not understand why a large part of the human population believes that Microsoft has been given ownership of all markets and ideas that they want, and that any attempts at freedom constitute theft of Microsoft's divine right to the universe.
Microsoft has done very well. That doesn't promote them to deity status.
Posted by Philosopher | June 13, 2008 10:23 AM
I think your co-worker Clint Boulton, has it mostly right with why "Did Icahn Pressure Yahoo into Google's Arms?" (link at right) My only question is, how much Icahn and Steve Ballmer were/are working together to try to take over Yahoo? Or perhaps Icahn is possibly another pawn like Microsoft used SCO to do their dirty work? At the very least, Steve Ballmer at least tried to foster someone like Icahn to do this to put the heat on Yahoo.
Now it has backfired, as a lot of Steve's plans has lately. Google and Yahoo, are to some extent, uniting against the Borg. Yahoo will most likely get enough cash to help it fend off the Icahn attack as well. And in the end, MS creates another enemy.
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Guess when Windows Seven is most likely to come out? How about the same time as the next Office, just like it did with Vi$ta.
A Microsoft website accidentally let slip the next version of Office will be released in 2009.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/603591/office-14-release-date-leaked
Quotes from the link; "A Microsoft developers’ website has slipped up and accidentally published details of when the next version of Office is due for release. The article referenced “Office SharePoint 2009” and was spotted by a blogger, who subsequently enquired as to whether the rest of the productivity suite – currently in development under the codename ‘”Office 14” – would also be available in 2009."
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First Bill slipped up and named 2009, now this, guess MS will need to do more damage control and try to convince up its really going be 2010, LOL. How else will they get the suckers to keep buying Vi$ta if they know that Windows Seven and Office 14 will be here in 2009? Not that Seven will be anything but Vista2.
Posted by chips2 (the one being censored) | June 13, 2008 11:28 AM
Microsoft and Ballmer have played this masterfully. They knew all along that their options for future success in the search business were along one of two lines.
1) get scale, as in buying facebook's ad business and yahoo's search business, etc, etc etc
2) get google closer to being deemed a monopoly. no modern company knows the sting of that 'declaration' more than microsoft. but with silly yahoo in the market, well, 3 IS a crowd in deed. There had to be TWO still standing.
Mission accomplished. Now the end-game is in sight. Microsoft is in a great position.
Posted by up | June 13, 2008 11:55 AM
I don't get it Joe. A month ago you were saying the best thing for Microsoft would be to walk away from Yahoo. You also said that wouldn't happen due to the perception of weakness or failure it would convey. Well, it DID happen and now you're saying Ballmer should, and you WOULD, be throwing chairs. Make up your mind, report objectively, or just out yourself as a perpetual Microsoft basher.
Posted by jph | June 13, 2008 12:38 PM
@ up
"Get google closer to being declared a monopoly"
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There's nothing wrong with being a monopoly (in US at least). Just "illegally obtaining and abusing" a monopoly is bad. There's no lock-in with Google (yet) and there's no anti-competitive exclusion (yet). So therefore Google isn't becoming Microsoft (yet).
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@ jph
"he best thing for Microsoft would be to walk away from Yahoo"
"Microsoft should be throwing chairs"
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Joe has repeatedly said that all of Yahoo is bad for Microsoft. But now M$ doesn't want all of Yahoo, just its search. And that search going against M$ (by joining Google) is a bad thing.
Posted by ZzarkLinux | June 13, 2008 1:59 PM
Clearly the markey disagrees. Yahooo is down 10%, Microsoft is up.
This is just going to increase the shareholder lawsuits against Yahoo. Yahoo has effectively committed Hari Kiri. In the longer term this might help MSFT because when Yahoo is dead MSFT becomes #2 in search by default.
Posted by redbaron | June 13, 2008 2:32 PM
Good for Google and Yahoo. I wish them the best of luck. MS did not deserve Yahoo and I am so happy they aren't getting them. I am all for a Google monopoly of the web, just long enough for MS to cry foul. Serves them right. Now they can feel what it is like to get roadblocked. Karma MS. I hope Steve Ballsmore not only throws a chair and a tantrum, but also that he blows a vessel. I can imagine it spewing froth from his forehead. His big billboard bald head.
Posted by I-Man Heart VCSY | June 13, 2008 4:14 PM
@ I-Man Heart VCSY says:
"Good for Google and Yahoo. I wish them the best of luck. MS did not deserve Yahoo and I am so happy they aren't getting them. I am all for a Google monopoly of the web"
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I agree. I do not fear a Google monopoly, as so far they have done no evil. Better perhaps, if the Google monopoly can shutdown the Microsoft attempt to take over the world, err, I mean the internet, that is a very good thing. I hope all the new data centers that MS is building will go unused, and be a waste of money for MS. It would be a good thing for MS to be crushed in its web advertising endeavors. We will all benefit, when MS fails.
Posted by chips | June 13, 2008 4:50 PM
I wrote:
This is bad for Ms in two ways
If Ms does buy Yahoo, there is no serious analyst that can think that will go well for MS.
If Ms doesn't buy Yahoo.. Ms knows that it will be almost impossible to catch up with Google (well, it was impossible anyway, but...hope doesn't die easily.)
"Ms couldn't ever have bid for Yahoo. The best option is not to buy Yahoo-but loss of prestige and morale have a price. Another thing which could be terrible is that Yahoo wakes up (nothing better than a hostile bid for that). It is very possible that Yahoo gets to "cooperate" with Google (Google needs Yahoo to distance it from Ms and the thing about monopoly). Perhaps now Yahoo's shares will fall a tad, but we all have acknowledged that the Internet is the future and thus, that there is money in it (otherwise, why then would MS despair so?)"
Well, with a contract worths $500 M/year we could wait a reasonable revenue for Yahoo.
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Is it only my idea or is the whole thing going wrong for Ms?
Posted by Marco | June 13, 2008 8:07 PM
Everyone thinks this is a bad thing - it's just plain meaningless.
All you have is YHOO which will continue to sell out it's company to GOOG until it's dead. They were going to die at some point anyways, it might even be slower this way.
If MSFT had gotten YHOO, it would have had to sift through the 20B of crap to get to the 20B of good stuff in a BEST case scenario.
So were pretty back where we started, all the Microbashing comments and resentment didn't change a thing.
Posted by BlahBlah | June 13, 2008 8:31 PM
@Marco says;
"Is it only my idea or is the whole thing going wrong for Ms?"
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You are entirely correct, this is going about as badly as possible for Microsoft, no matter how much the M$ fanbois and shills try to paint it overwise.
Facts;
1. MS did not acquire Yahoo for $33 a share.
2. MS did not buy just the Yahoo search.
3. It should like MS would actually have to come back with more money before Yahoo would even at this point even bother to talk with them.
4. Yahoo, under the leadership of Yang, has made improvements, and increased profits.
5. Yahoo just did a deal with Google which should be worth 500 million to 1 billion a year to Yahoo, without giving up any of its IP. Yahoo wins.
6. It will now be harder for Icahn to convince Yahoo shareholders to sell out because of the increased profits thanks to Yang.
7. Furthermore, thanks to Microsoft PR, and the fact that they now say they are not willing to pay as much for google as they previously offered, this will help defeat the Icahn attempted takeover as well. What Yahoo shareholder would now want to sell for less? Insane on the part of MS.
8. Google wins, as it gets a percentage as well as Yahoo on the extra click thru's.
9. Both Google, Yahoo, and computer users everywhere win, as Microsoft is frozen from using its lockin-ware type tactics without increasing its internet market share, which an Yahoo acquisition might have provided for them.
10. When MS completes all those new Data Centers of the world, they will find little use for them, as the company begins it long, but gradual decline from the internet and desktop.
Posted by chips | June 13, 2008 9:52 PM
@chips - funny stuff but the best are #4 and #6
LOL!
Put aside your Microbashing for a minute and pretend you are a YHOO shareholder and you will know what I mean
You got #1,2 and 8 right though
Posted by BlahBlah | June 13, 2008 10:13 PM
I cannot help wondering if the public emphasis on "search" (to the exclusion of every other Yahoo! asset) may have been MSFT's deliberate distraction from major anti-competitive implications for everything else. These other factors might explain why MSFT was eager for a deal that made little sense to others, at least on the basis of search.
Within the world of search, I am not sure that the death of Yahoo! would be all that good for MSFT. Google enjoys multiples the market share that MSFT search does, even though MSFT IE7 defaults to Windows Live. Stated another way, the market has a strong preference for Google over MSFT search. Given that clear-cut preference and the absence of serious contenders below the number 3 spot, Google would likely pick up most of Yahoo's market share. MSFT (and the bit players) would just have to be satisfied with the scraps. On the other hand, buying or destroying Yahoo! would eliminate the main threat to MSFT for those (non search) areas where Yahoo! clearly dominates and MSFT would have a serious chance of being catapulted to number 1.
I am not an attorney, either, but it seems that, at least for search, anti-trust concerns of Yahoo!'s survival through cooperation with Google in the deals as outlined should be less than those from the outright elimination or dismantling of number 2 in the market.
Posted by Pinball | June 13, 2008 10:37 PM
@ Blahblah,
As usual you live up to your name. "meaningless" because "everything's back to where it started".
HA
Hardly. Microsoft is so far behind now because everyone knows it. It was obvious to those who know the industry and the market. Codger Carl Icon went ahead and blew the covers off by saying what we all have been saying for months: Microsoft can't compete on the internet without Yahoo.
What does that mean? It means all those fools who bought into the Sharepoint lock-in will lose their careers.
Don't believe it? Years ago there was a saying "Nobody ever got fired for recommending IBM." It was the justification many in IT used to sinking more and more corporate capital into IBM IT when the signs were clear and becoming more clear every day that IBM didn't understand the business anymore.
There came a day when those who had recommended IBM were run out of their careers.
Those who recommend Microsoft are in for that same shameful day soon.
Posted by portuno | June 13, 2008 11:23 PM
portuno Says :
"Those who recommend Microsoft are in for that same shameful day soon."
@ BlahBlah :
"There's a strong business case for Linux as an alternative to Microsoft ..., ... Novell, which late last year released what it calls SUSE Enterprise Real Time 10 specifically for use in organizations that have millions or billions of dollars at stake based on how quickly they can complete trades."
Posted by n0neXn0ne | June 14, 2008 10:42 AM
Hi I-Man..U still on this forum also. I think Firefox and linux oriented have no work rather discussing Microsoft. Too good for microsoft. By the way I-Man, how things are going on Firefox front. Must be very happy guy for the coming launch of Firefox 3.0 Great...Dear...Ha ha ha ...
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 14, 2008 2:34 PM
Hi portuno, What a SHAME that u are sitting on microsoft's web site. I think so you check up your ur history facts. People recommended IBM against Microsoft and who was the winner? Every one knows...MICROSOFT and now the same for Microsof and Linux. Recommending again Linux? Ok u now know who be the winner again..Ha ha ha ...
Dont be ashamed to post a reply to this message..Waiting for your message...
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 14, 2008 2:38 PM
Rohit Dhand Says:
"Hi portuno, What a SHAME that u are sitting on microsoft's web site."
@Rohit Dhand :
He is sitting on "microsoft's web site" which is powered by "Linux".
Hence, he is on Linux.
[netcraft.com]
"www.microsoft-watch.com Site Report April 2002 The Dog House 'Linux'"
@Rohit Dhand :
"I think so you check up your ur ... facts."
Posted by n0neXn0ne | June 14, 2008 5:01 PM
Joe, how about an article on Sharepoint?
It's SHOWTIME!!
(By Portuno)
Digging into Sharepoint to unbury the bodies.
By the way, I've started digging into the Sharepoint history since Raymond Niro has added Sharepoint to the charges of infringement by Microsoft against VCSY.
I thought you might like to know what google string I'm working with since it's in this article (I always take advice where ever I see good advice).
(url removed)
Enjoy. We'll be discussing what is so fascinating about this new application development platform that's been in the making at Microsoft since 2002... three years after Aubrey McAuley of VCSY applied for the 6826744 application development platform.
Lots of stuff to learn, folks. And those of you who've recommended your corporations buy into Sharepoint should also recommend your corporation's lawyers look into the kind of problems your use of Sharepoint will bring.
Steve Ballmer announced Microsoft would protect MSFT clients against infringement charges in November 2004. He said it two weeks before the 6826744 patent was granted. He knows what the problems are. He knows where it's all headed.
The problem is: you don't. But you're about to find out.
MUCH MORE TO THIS THREAD ar url:
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_M/threadview?m=tm&bn=12004&tid=1398324&mid=1398324&tof=7&rt=2&frt=2&off=1
Posted by I-Man | June 15, 2008 1:23 AM
n0neXn0ne :
Says
He is sitting on "microsoft's web site" which is powered by "Linux".
Hence, he is on Linux.
@Rohit Dhand :
"I think so you check up your ur ... facts."
I am happy that LINUX can host such crapy piece of Software and run it. Good for Linux...ha ha ha. Please do post in the ur Linux Communities that dont host MS sites on LINUX, because other wise it will also become Crappy.
By the way u didnt answer the Microsoft and IBM's answer? because u are afraid.
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 15, 2008 2:32 AM
Rohit Dhand :
What is your problem?
Leaving aside an excess of testosterone, adrenaline, cafeine and/or drugs, the only things I could think of were two: either a desperate desire to get noticed, or to take up the role of the paladin-shill of Ms.
Others have tried... and it didn't work. Therefore, if you will only try to insult/denigrate, I would recommend those who form part of the forum to ignore you. Because people who act like this die of 'starvation' when they are ignored.
However, if you come to join in with coherent arguments you are welcome-I am speaking only for myseft- (whether you prefer Ms, Linux or whoever).
Lastly, if your efforts in defending Ms come from the fact that you get some sort of benefit (in the economic sense) from Ms, I hope that you mention it. Because otherwise, it is truly shaming when we find out.
Sorry if you write to me (with coherent arguments) and I cannot answer rapidly. It is that (unlike Ms' shills) I've got a life.But remember coherent arguments.
Posted by Marco | June 15, 2008 1:31 PM
Marco,
There is no problem from my side at least. Lots of People have tried to Support of technologies and have died, that I also know, including Linux.
And by the way Coherent Arguements...Think in a relaxed manner and then make certain assumptions.
"If any body supports Microsoft, then every one assumes that he is paid for that. And if any body condemns Microsoft and Supports Linux, then Why he is not paid?"
Just think in a relaxed manner. Lastly u are most welcome to make coherent or other arguements, because I dont get angry over pretty issues. In a forum every body has the right to speak for microsoft, linux or any other. This is also very logical. And you are most welcome to find out the Financial Benefit What I get from Microsoft. And it would be less shame than the shame for what u get "economic benefit" from non microsoft companies. Welcome for any open and free minded discussion. God Bless u.
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 15, 2008 2:19 PM
@Rohit Dhand :
I can tell you that I do not get any money from Linux, or any company that does promote linux or open source software. However, I do derive some income based upon Microsoft windows products. As Windows is the major malware target out there, I am one of those who people take their Windows computers to to have, malware cleaned out on, or fixed.
What financial reward I do get from Linux? My Operating system is free, except for what I care to donate, same with the software for it. My Linux systems have been rock stable and far more stable than any Windows OS, including their best, XP and 2000. Neither have I had any malware problems on linux. To find someone who is paid by some company promoting Linux, would be more than rare, I would say not even possible. To find someone here pretending to be an average user, promoting Microsoft for money, would be just the norm.
I did notice, Rohit Dhand, that you did not answer Marco's question directly, about if you derived money in some way from them. Again, the norm.
Lastly, to Joe Willcox, Please answer the questions about the laptops? Did you recieve free Laptop or laptops, and or other freebies from Microsoft?
Posted by chips | June 15, 2008 3:27 PM
“There is no problem from my side at least”
Your three posts belie you. I am answering you because your tone changed.
"If any body supports Microsoft, then every one assumes that he is paid for that. And if any body condemns Microsoft and Supports Linux, then Why he is not paid?"
I am thinking about some facts;
MS is the biggest software's company in the World
MS gets its objectives with no respect for ethics, and is able to achieve this based on its enormous economic and political power, cunning lawyers and general lack of scruples
MS is a legally proven criminal.
MS, because of its monopoly, charges us with abusive and excessively high prices (proof: its obscene enrichment) all for a bad or mediocre product or service. Then it perpetuates this situation with the killing of every newly born company that could compete against MS.
Therefore just either the masochistic or naive (somebody once said only fools and/or people affected by the Stockholm syndrome) can defend/love something that takes advantage over them (something like a MONOPOLY that OVERPRICES its products.)
MS doesn't care about you (DRM) and treats you as it would a thief (WGA), etc, etc. But if you aren't a masochist or an ingénue, you are Shill (more intelligent but without scruples) and that is not good either.
You don’t know to me, you can call me a Linux fanboy/Shill and it would not offend me, although it was true or a just a lie -because it is not an offence on itself. You would then calling me someone who defends the right thing, not allowing himself to be bullied, and watches over their own and their family's interests, someone who is looking for general well-being because software is a commodity and wants that all people have it without having to be ripped-off.
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And... yes I use Windows(yet) and Linux indistinctly and I don,t receive any benefit Linux (except the softwere free, clear.)
Posted by Marco | June 15, 2008 5:30 PM
Rohit Dhand thinks it is cute to stir things up. He obviously is not making any money off MS, because if anything he makes MS look like bigger morons and idiots than they really are. And MS wasn't even always morons and idiots, they used to just be cutthroat technology robbers and monopolists. They still rob technology from smaller companies and bully their way into getting away with it.
And why should some of us not try to warn others about the dangers of MS? This is not a forum for blindly praising MS. It is a forum of discussion, observation and the uncovering of the truth. And we know the truth does not always bode well for MS.
I think MS Vista is one of the worst OS's for its time. Worse than even ME because it was much more highly touted than ME, had a vastly larger amount of development time and dollars, and ended up being inferior to its predecessor. However, the worst piece of crapware MS makes is IE. I have said, and will stand by this, "anyone who (by choice) uses IE, is a moron. It is not standards compliant and is far inferior to Opera, Firefox and Safari. Every single unbiased review I have ever read rates IE at the bottom.
So all the morons using IE, you still have an opportunity. Try out an alternative browser, such as Opera, Safari or I-Man Heart VCSY's personal fave, Firefox. You will notice the speed, stability and protection missing in MS's Internet Exploder. Once you change your browser choice away from IE, I-Man Heart VCSY will no longer consider you a moron. Perhaps even you Rohit!
Posted by I-Man Heart VCSY | June 15, 2008 7:14 PM
chips Says :
"I can tell you that I do not get any money from Linux, or any company that does promote linux or open source software."
Rohit http://tinyurl.com/5f7hdr
Jalandhar, Punjab, India
Currently Working as Deptt Head of Computer Applications at Lovely Professional University, Phagwara. (INDIA). Interested in Computers, gadgets, .NET, Databases, Operating Systems, Web Programming. Working in .NET for the last 5 years.
Posted by n0neXn0ne | June 15, 2008 7:28 PM
"Once you change your browser choice away from IE, I-Man Heart VCSY will no longer consider you a moron".
I-Man
Sincerely, although I agree with you about Ms,IE and Vista (not about Morons),I dislike you.
Posted by Marco | June 15, 2008 7:38 PM
n0neXn0ne;
A good song:Crying Shame-jack Johnson
Posted by Marco | June 15, 2008 7:52 PM
@n0neXn0ne :
Thanks for busting that one. Net for 5 years huh. LOL
Posted by chips | June 15, 2008 9:14 PM
n0neXn0ne
"I can tell you that I do not get any money from Linux, or any company that does promote linux or open source software."
This is not a proof. Similarly i can
On the similar pattern i can also tell u that i dont get money from microsoft for promoting micrsoft product.
And getting once's bio-data from Internet is very easy. Not a very good job done. Dear.
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 16, 2008 4:13 AM
I-Man Heart VCSY :
thanks for the little praise for stiring up the things. Actually i can see the anger on ur face still large and relaxed, because u are getting personal now. "I-Man Heart VCSY will no longer consider you a moron. Perhaps even you Rohit!"
Who cares of I-Man heart, Even God doenot knows who he is....never mind. I stand my view that I-Man used firefox is a nose poker and will stand by it also.
U dont even have the oppurtunity to use the crapy IE. I am very sorry for it.
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 16, 2008 4:58 AM
up :
.NET for 5 years...u laughed...
Now laugh at u...
http://philip.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000tcP
Ha ha ha ha ha ha... Now say MIT is a degraded institute. Ha ha ha ha
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 16, 2008 5:06 AM
chips :
You said
@n0neXn0ne :
Thanks for busting that one. Net for 5 years huh. LOL
Now laugh at u...
http://philip.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000tcP
Ha ha ha ha ha ha... Now say MIT is a degraded institute. Ha ha ha ha LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 16, 2008 5:07 AM
@Marco
Well, I DO NOT dislike you. I think you are one of the more intelligent, well spoken commenters here. I admire you and chips and philosopher and n0neXn0ne and many more. But nonsensical ramblings from MS shills is ridiculous and makes these morons and MS look second-rate. You all use facts and figures and links with information to back up your claims.
Andre Da Costa and Rohit Dhand use their own personal comments and flowering praise of the MS crapware with no basis in fact to promote MS. At least much of Andre's comments sound like a professional piece of MS issued propaganda, Rohit is truly just a rambler and I-Man Heart VCSY does not believe he gets a penny from MS for posting here. If he does, MS is getting ripped off!
Posted by I-Man Heart VCSY | June 16, 2008 7:19 AM
To I-Man; Thanks for you concept about us.I am just asking you to avoid insulting, because that mean inability and incompetence.
Rohit Dhand :Sad Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by Marco | June 16, 2008 10:27 AM
Rohit Dhand Says :
"And getting once's bio-data from Internet is very easy. Not a very good job done. Dear."
@Rohit Dhand :
I'm sure the late great "Tim Russert" would've been proud of me. ;)
As he would've said, "Those are your words not mine"
@ http://tinyurl.com/5f7hdr
Next time hit the translation button before posting, pls. thx
have a nice day
Posted by n0neXn0ne | June 16, 2008 11:01 AM
Rohit Dhand Says :
"Now say MIT is a degraded institute. ..."
@ _ http://tinyurl.com/6mtkng :
"MIT makes heterogeneous IT systems work
Open source lends the flexibility needed to meet disparate departmental needs"
"Flexibility in support options is yet another benefit. We're not tied to any specific vendor for the maintenance, Coveney says. He recalls that when one department's proprietary portal vendor went out of business, it took a year to redo the system. That wouldn't have been an issue for an open source portal because IT could have relied on the user community for interim support, Coveney says. Plus, it's easier to migrate from one open source portal to another because they tend to all use the LAMP stack, and access to the underlying code makes redeployment easier than working with a black-box commercial system. "
Posted by n0neXn0ne | June 16, 2008 11:29 AM
Rohit Dhand and the likes just need to smell the Microsoft coffee. Because it has been left on the burner too long and is burning.
Posted by I-Man Heart VCSY | June 16, 2008 1:58 PM
Rohit and his kind need to wake up and smell the MicroSoft coffee, because it is getting burned.
Posted by I-Man Heart VCSY | June 16, 2008 2:11 PM
Rohit and his kind need to wake up and smell the MicroSoft coffee, because it is getting burned.
Posted by I-Man Heart VCSY | June 16, 2008 2:11 PM
This means absolutely nothing...Yahoo is pretty much useless in all definitions of the word...who cares, and Google just fed themselves a poison-pill.
Posted by thatguy | June 16, 2008 7:31 PM
@I-Man Heart VCSY:
OK OK we get it! You hate Microsoft. Won't you PLEASE go away!?!?!?!
Posted by Tom Berber | June 17, 2008 10:30 AM
I-Man Heart VCSY :
"Rohit and his kind..."
need to wake up and smell the MicroSoft coffee, because it is getting burned.
I am happy that a single man created a mess for the whole of the Anti microsoft community. I am impressed with the way I dealt with them. This is all written large on their faces.
I think I made you wake up, so u reacted in this manner. Means u were asleep...Ha ha.
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 17, 2008 12:39 PM
n0neXn0ne :
"MIT makes heterogeneous IT systems work"
Oh My God. If any body uses .NET now they are need of a hetrogeneous System. But I am impressed at least they have started using Crapy software(according to you) in their Institute. A big blow to you.
Posted by Rohit Dhand | June 17, 2008 12:43 PM
Rohit Dhand Says I said :
"...at least they have started using Crapy software(according to you)..."
@Rohit Dhand :
Those are yours words, NOT mine.
Posted by n0neXn0ne | June 17, 2008 5:39 PM
correction:
"your words"
Rohit Dhand Says :
"If any body uses .NET now they are need of a hetrogeneous System."
@Rohit Dhand :
It's not about ".NE"T, it's about the 'stack'.
stack == "The set of applications typically required by an organization. A typical "enterprise" application stack would include the basic office functions (word processing, spreadsheet, database, etc.), as well as a Web browser and e-mail and instant messaging programs. "Stack" has become a popular term for suite, set or group of software."
Each one teach one ;)
Posted by n0neXn0ne | June 17, 2008 5:49 PM
It seems to me that there is room for everyone concerned here. There just isn�t much room for anyone else. Microsoft doesn't need to "catch up" with Google. Microsoft will continue to do very well with or without Yahoo or Google. I don't see Google releasing the Google OS that will sweep the market any time soon. And if they did launch such a competitive alternative, how long would it take them to put a dent in 90 plus percent of the private, governmental and educational OS market that Microsoft enjoys. And what of the deep list of other profitable models that Microsoft helms. No, I don't think that Steve is throwing a chair. I think he is playing a relaxing game of golf while his business and acquisition experts methodically figure out what went wrong with the Yahoo deal, what it means to the small slice of Microsoft that is there search division, and how to respond. Next time you are sitting before a Yahoo or Google home page, look in the bottom left corner of your screen, that�s not a Google or Yahoo icon you�re looking at.
I certainly do not understand even a fraction of the intricate inner working of these three �Super-Corps�, but at first blush I must say, I think all is well for all of them.
Chris Bangs
SMB Nation
Posted by Chris Bangs | June 18, 2008 11:41 AM
That icon at the bottom left of my screen is not a Google or Yahoo icon! It really isn't! It looks like a footprint. What could that be? Hmmmm. It's definitely not a MS rainblow flag.
Posted by I-Man Heart VCSY | June 18, 2008 2:03 PM
What do Yahoo, Camgirls & organised crime have in common? http://endmafia.com
Posted by keith jones | July 4, 2008 9:40 PM
Someone else having trouble with Yahoo! mobsters:
http://news.cnet.com/5208-1038-0.html?hhTest&forumID=1&threadID=10346&messageID=76947&start=-1
Posted by keeef | July 9, 2008 3:58 AM
Google & Yahoo do a lot of business with Mafia pornographers, http://endmafia.com who use captive women for industrial internet porn production. Also there is a huge amount of 'free' software belonging to Mafia which comes at the price of spyware. Do yourselves & captive women a favour & stick with Microsoft.
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