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November 27, 2007 2:59 PM

Android, 'Can You Hear Me Now?'



Smack! That's the sound of Verizon slapping Google across the face. Whack! Microsoft joined in with a baseball bat. Crack! There's a blow for Apple's iPhone, too.

Verizon's surprise announcement about opening access to outside phones is a tactful first strike against Google, its 700MHz auction intentions and the forthcoming Android mobile platform. It's no surprise that Microsoft supports Verizon's move.

In a statement issued today: "Microsoft is very excited to see Verizon Wireless make such a bold move to satisfy the demands of wireless consumers," said Pieter Knook, senior vice president of Microsoft's Mobile Communications Business.

"As people's mobile needs become more sophisticated and varied, they will require smarter and more adaptable mobile devices," he continued. "We are proud to support any open access that puts more power in people's hands to connect them to the information they want, when and where they want it."

That's easy enough for Knook to say, because:

  • Microsoft makes a mobile operating system that would benefit more from increased open access. Surely there are Verizon customers that would want to use the Samsung BlackJack II or Tilt; both Windows Mobile 6 devices are exclusive to AT&T. Microsoft could sell more mobiles if network access is more open.
  • Carrier openness is better than Google openness. Google tells a good open-access story with its 700MHz spectrum plans and forthcoming Android mobile platform. But the biggest mobile benefits would go to Google, because it controls the supporting advertising and search platform. For years, Microsoft has sought to control standards, which made open more open for the software giant than for other companies. Google takes a similar approach. It's better for Microsoft if carriers like Verizon rather than Google open up the cellular networks.
  • Microsoft can lord open access over Apple because the iPhone is locked to a single carrier in most markets. Apple's exclusive agreement with AT&T makes it unlikely that the Mac maker would support the technical standards that would open iPhone up to use on Verizon's network. Apple is the iPhone brick maker, remember?

Verizon's stick-it-to-Google open-access announcement is an early Christmas present for Microsoft. Timing will be interesting. Verizon's network should be opening up about the same time Android platform handsets become available, in late 2008.

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chips :

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/11/26/wpad_vuln_investigated/

Quote from the link: "the flaw affects every version of Windows including Vista and is actually the continuation of an old vulnerability that Microsoft supposedly fixed years ago.

The bug, according to Symantec's DeepSight threat notification service, resides in a feature known as Web Proxy Autodiscovery (WPAD), which helps IT administrators automate the configuration of proxy settings in Internet Explorer and other web browsers. The vulnerability can be "widely exploited" to "intercept web sessions, direct browsers to malicious proxies, and effectively gain control over unsuspecting users' web traffic," according to Symantec, which said it had yet to confirm the vulnerability."

chips :

South Africa, Netherlands and Korea striding toward ODF

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1351236114

Quotes from the link:

"France is making the strongest move to ODF and its native office suite, OpenOffice. Nearly half a million government employees are being switched to OpenOffice."

"As Microsoft's Office Open XML document format remains in ISO limbo, a trio of countries are pushing forward an adoption of the alternative Open Document Format (ODF) instead, according to an ODF advocacy group."

"The ODF Alliance now claims 500 members. By the alliance's count, 13 nations have announced laws or rules that favor the use ODF -- the native file format in the free, open-source OpenOffice productivity software -- over Microsoft's Office formats, such as Office Open XML.

Those nations include Russia, Malaysia, Japan, France, Belgium, Croatia, Denmark, Germany and Norway."

dsaf :

Hey Chips, can you now relate your two posts to the article that Joe wrote? Or are you looking for a place to spew you junk? Why not start up a blog? Are you that dumb that you just spew off anything even if it is not related? Ya I want to get behind your Linux movement you are so smart. You convinced me by showing show how smart you are by posting junk that does not relate to Gool. Stick to the subject it may help your cause.

dsaf :

I guess that I'm also assuming you read the article. You can read? What do you do wait for a new article, Click the link, scroll down and start posting junk?

dsaf :

The question is how good will the quality of the free network be? Will the performance be good and stable or will ther be drops and disconnects.
Here is a link on a Verizon review, don't know if there is a more recent one. Version got a 7 out 10 by CNET and the reviewers.
Reviewed on 2/20/07
reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/verizon-wireless/4505-6454_7-32137727.html

I-Man :

Poor Ray is too embarrassed to show his face...

... and what if he's out there and people start asking questions? What will he say?

Microsoft says Oz "is busy helping the company figure out its Web strategy". Dear God, Ray! How long does it take? Until the VCSY v MSFT trial in 2009? Your hair will be gray by then. And I mean REAL gray. Not that phony blue bottle stuff you doctor it up with.

I guess the industry wants to ask Ray too many leading questions for our leading man. Better stay home, Ray. That way nobody will mess up your hair.

This is starting to look very suspicious for Microsoft.

Those of you who dismiss the idea Microsoft can't field new XML technology need to start coming up with some real reasons why your take makes sense.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=984

November 27th, 2007
Ray Ozzie MIA from Microsoft?s Mix ?08 line-up
Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 11:45 am

Ray Ozzie, Microsoft?s Chief Software Architect, has become increasingly notorious for his invisibility on the Web 2.0 conference circuit. If the Microsoft Mix ?08 Web site is any indication, Ozzie sightings are going to become even scarcer in the new year.

Ray Ozzie MIA from Microsoft?s Mix ?08 line-upUnless Ozzie is a last-minute addition to the Microsoft Mix ?08 keynote line-up, he won?t be one of the main speakers at Microsoft?s biggest Web conference of the year.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, Developer Division General Manager Scott Guthrie and Managing Director of Garage Technology Ventures Guy Kawasaki are all on the keynote list for Mix ?08. But Ozzie is nowhere to be seen on the preliminary line-up.

Ozzie?s two big public appearances of 2007 were Mix ?07 and the Microsoft Financial Analyst Meeting. That was it.

Microsoft?s explanation, whenever anyone asks about Ozzie?s whereabouts, is he is busy helping the company figure out its Web strategy. (Ozzie never responds directly himself.)

I realize some companies use executive scarcity to help create demand and mystique. (Textbook example: Former IBM CEO Lou Gerstner.) But isn?t Web 2.0 all about collaboration, networking, blogging? Isn?t Ozzie supposed to be filling Chairman Bill Gates? Chief Software Architect shoes by serving as Microsoft?s public face to the tech world?

Is there anything to be read into Ozzie?s disappearing act? What?s your take?

chips :

Ha ha,
check out this one;

'Windows for Supercomputers' Needs Less RAM Than Vista

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/139783/windows_for_supercomputers_needs_less_ram_than_vista.html

Quotes from the link: "HPC Server 2008, also known as "Windows for Supercomputers," which can run on 512Mb of memory. Vista, on the other hand, is intended for home and office desktops. On top of the 1Gb minimum memory requirement, Microsoft recommends 2Gb or 4Gb to achieve the best experience."

Tom :

Joe,


What you're hearing is Verizon announcing something in an attempt to stay relevant in the industry. The iPhone put pressure on everyone (moreso now with it's clear success), Google is getting plenty of press over vapor that's unavailable for another year, and into this Verizon's new "iPhone-killer" Voyager phone was just received with a resounding thud.


So Verizon announces something unheard of pre-iPhone (indeed, it goes against everything U.S. carriers stand for) because if they don't do something this drastic, they'll be drowned out in the post-iPhone world.


Make no mistake, this is a Good Thing, but attributing it all to Google's efforts is ludicrous.

I-Man :

dsaf,
If the SEC knew somebody was trying to take VCSY down and the only way to catch them red-handed and along with new people piling on was to let Wade set the agreements for developing the technology up as evaluations only. That way nobody gets hurt and nobody can accuse Wade of trying to make money unfairly.

If you haven't been watching VCSY as long as the true VCSY Longs. We can show you all kinds of information put out by people NOW Solutions was working with that NOW Solutions and VCSY never said a word about. It just goes to show people how little your suppose to know.

What if the SEC agreed with VCSY that the last announcement of the evaluation period VCSY was working through with people like IBM and Adobe would be the REAL material event? That works.

dasf :

Joe Wilcox,
why did you delete my comments on this article and others. mine had nothing to do with the articles nor does chips nor i-man? is there something going on?

dsaf :

Here is a repost of my junk, none reled to the article post, please don't delete:

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Maddog :

Hi dsaf! If you think one guy posts unrelated junk, are you improving things by posting more unrelated junk?

Obviously you're trying to make a point. I think most of us got it the first time. No need to belabor the obvious.

Back to topic.

If Verizon's move is a slap against Google, at least it still gives consumers more choices. That is the benefit of competition. So let Verizon and Google competer with their respective open networks. The more choices consumers have in terms of features, performance, and price, the better!

Maddog :

Hi dsaf! If you think one guy posts unrelated junk, are you improving things by posting more unrelated junk?

Obviously you're trying to make a point. I think most of us got it the first time. No need to belabor the obvious.

Back to topic.

If Verizon's move is a slap against Google, at least it still gives consumers more choices. That is the benefit of competition. So let Verizon and Google competer with their respective open networks. The more choices consumers have in terms of features, performance, and price, the better!

Marco :


dsaf;
You don't understand as this forum works
You are in the jungle and just you personal (intelligence) value will be backing you (and the confidence in yourself and your personal beliefs-at the end-) ha,ha,ah. There is not moderator only the others readers opinion.

Joe does not matter, sometime there are better and more tasteful information and comments into the forum (not disrespect Joe) ha,ha.


Maddog :"Obviously you're trying to make a point. I think most of us got it the first time. No need to belabor the obvious."

Yes dsaf, you are so predictable and obvious my friend

Marco :

slapping ?...Crack? are you sure?, I understand that those who are changing their bussiness habits (CRACK!) are Ms and Verizon (not Google)
Well, anyway I think it is a step in the right direction (but falls short, yet) good for them!
Seriusly Joe, do you think that it could had happened if Google had not made the first move?

Jimmy :

Um, no. That sound you hear is the sound of Verizon bending themselves over a barrel. Even if what they are claiming to do is more than just rhetoric, Verizon still isn't doing anything more than trying to save their asses in a world where they don't provide any value other than basic wireless access.

This will only make things better for Google, Microsoft, and Apple. And you, Joe, are an idiot.

Naganm :

Verizon's move is not about being open, its about suckering people into lockin. Verizon has made a 180 degree turn very fast. I remember Verizon's move against FCC rules for the 700Mhz buyer, rules as any mobile device must be allowed to work. Verizon has another problem, trust, when will Verizon filp again ?.

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