Sometimes pictures can say a thousand words...

http://media.coveritlive.com/media/image/200810/6ke0fv78ifIMG_0679.JPG

So, since we don't seem to get the rundown on Windows Seven yet from Joe. Thought I would post a link and a review on the "pre-beta." (why cannot MS just call it an ALPHA like everyone else?) To be fair to Joe Willcox, as he is at this convention, and might not even get a alpha 7 to try out later.

Windows 7: Oops! Microsoft did it again!
My initial evaluation of Windows 7 shows that it's really just Vista with a fresh coat of paint
weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisedesktop/archives/2008/10/windows_7_oops.html

Quotes from the link:
"Just as slow as Vista.
Just as consumer-focused as Vista. Home Groups. Media Sharing. Federated Search. All very cool. All very slick. And all very much irrelevant to the enterprise desktop customer
Just as confusing as Vista. Microsoft has once again moved stuff around in the UI. After baffling its loyal users by completely upending the XP UI, Microsoft has decided that it wasn't satisfied with the end result. So it started moving stuff, with the Control Panel taking the brunt of the abuse. Need to add a printer? Welcome to the new "Devices and Printers" applet! Looking for the "System and Maintenance" subgroup? It now has a new name: "System and Security." And can you guess where the Security subgroup went? No? Then it's time for some retraining! Overall, I'm extremely disappointed with Windows 7. Far from atoning for Vista's sins, Windows 7 simply carries them forward, visiting them upon yet another generation."

Considering how bias you are chips, I know I speak for many here when I say I can't wait to read your Windows 7 bashing article.

Funny how Jason Brooks had a totally different opinion, maybe he has a different copy.

Hello TA, the difference with Chips and a MS-agent poster is quite simple. Chips will give examples and links for his views, a MS-agent will simply post adverts and refuse to answer any questions.

If there was nothing to "bash" about Windows, then people wouldnt do it. Jason Brooks? Id like to see what he said, how about you provide a link?

"Windows Azure Cloud Platform Revealed. My colleague Darryl Taft lays out the nuts and bolts of Microsoft's answer to Amazon, Google and other Web 2.0 platform developers."

Mhhhh, once again the "leader" in innovation is found following.

Sometime ago, and as far as the Internet is concerned, quite a while ago that I've made mention to the evolutionary steps of Vista or for that matter, Microsoft. In comparing the historical route of Windows when we all were beginning to talk about what Windows 7 may be like, I took a (not so) hard look into Microsoft's past.

I speculated then that Microsoft Windows Seven may only be a mild change from Vista that is akin to previously released Windows 98 and the consequential Windows 98 SE in similarity as far as the "shades of gray" if you would.

For those that are having a hard time comprehending, I am not saying W98SE and Vista are the same...

Seeing quickly passed the IT fanfare and hype and looking deeper into the nuts and bolts of the Windows Seven architecture, especially when I found out that the identical same kernel used in Vista/Server 2008 will be used in the next version of Windows, proving my initial fears in the beginning -- is essentially the same lurking deep under the hood -- Same engine, same frame built around the "Drive Train."

Modify the body, change some things around, word it differently and give it a fresh coat of paint...

Sure, I can see some added and updated features, that's certain enough -- More than what was delivered in SP2 for XP.

As one that is also been testing Windows 7, I have to agree that there has been, and is in the works, some changes for the better overall, and again, some real BS -- Yes, the sins continue.

The thing you will notice right away is Performance that is akin to the Server 2008 speed and the stability as with my Server 2008 Workstation so far -- But wait, don't get your hopes up too high...

So this is telling me, that Microsoft is building the so-called new OS on the performance breakthroughs, if you would, from their server version and the technologies gained from that technology into this latest version -- Follow the DNA.

Nonetheless, the DNA is still without a doubt, ultimately Vista.

The GUI of course is what the first things the average consumer will see along with the associated dialogs and widgets, so there is certainly work to be done there -- Much work, and the naming convention is in disarray.

This will not be enough to keep people happy, or in bliss of the so-called new OS. The new glitz will wear away fast -- Quicker than a virgin on Prom Night!

But if you want to keep the consumer using the new "Vista SE" the performance has to be there along with the stability in the final release.

Functionality, coming in a close second to the dead-heat with the two top that I've mention must be there -- Remember, Microsoft suffers performance and stability for the greedy sins of functionality, trying to be all things to everyone, and by the way, screws the pooch in doing so.

Many folks will argue that the performance and stability are improved right now over Vista, but Microsoft isn't done yet with adding all the "functionality" and millions of lines of additional code in this department yet -- Far from it.

I am sure that Microsoft will improve on this "Demon Budget" of balancing Performance -- Yeah, unless it becomes another ship wreck -- Remember, Microsoft will eventually dump performance and stability to the attempt of becoming all things to everyone!

Stability over Functionality -- This should be a formula 'er something... Just a joke there in the latter.

Now, since Windows Seven IS THE SAME KERNEL; drivers for Vista x86, x64 are obviously out there for the newer hardware. IE, I use the same Vista x64 drivers in 2008 for everything I have without an issue.

So as for hardware, printers, scanners, external drives and so forth in my world do work fine, and in fact better than on the Server OS platform rather than with Vista shows promise that "Vista SE" will be a certain improvement based upon the overall incremental successions done in the Server 2008 development.

Vista SE, I mean Windows Seven is nothing more (too me so far) than Vista R2 if you would. The pressure is on with Microsoft and if they would of named this for what it really is, Vista SE, or R2 would be much closer to the truth -- But would fail miserably in the market, so spin up a new version and it might sale, Redmond?

So far, many people will begin to see right through this as just another version of Vista, the continuation of pretty much the same old thing with some slight adjustments to the GUI and under the hood. Vista SE to me...

Windows Seven is only an incremental steps toward improving on the existing kernel, nothing more, though it painfully seems.

As for Microsoft, I will wait until the final release of Windows Seven Server is out before I think about upgrading -- But that's me, I prefer server "workstations" over the former due to those things I discussed, and I develop certain things and like using certain functions that are not in the windows workstation OS's.

If I had to be stuck with a "normal" operating system, I would completely abandon MS for Apple after testing out Windows 7 (cough) Vista SE.

Save yourself a lot of hurt and just buy Apple and in the long run, you'll save money, because after all, time is money, isn't your time worth something?

Whilst we cannot prove if Klint is telling the truth, the same is true for any poster here.

Im sure a shill or two will be back with a counter advert to the above post, but why should anyone believe them more than Klint?

Klints opinions echo some of the press that Windows 7 has already received. Of course the comeback for the ms-shill will be that they are pro mac and therefore bias.

But what about the people who have come forward and given their name and the company they work for and said that they were not impressed by Windows 7?

Again, if you want the links pro-ms'rs I am happy to list them. However any user can find the same comments simply by using that which MS could never compete with, GOOGLE.

Klint

Thanks for your thoughts and it is very interesting on performance, stability v.s. functionality.