What does he look like, I will keep a lookout!

Where's Mary Jo? This place smells like old people.

If I were Mr. Ozzie I would not give you the time of day Joe !
If Mr. Ozzie read some of your previous articles on this website pertaining to Microsoft that would be reason enough.
Microsoft Watch is totally biased against microsoft and if I were Mr. Ozzie I would not talk to you at all !
Mary Jo Foley on the other hand at ZDNet is totally unbiased, she will (and does) call it like it is.
Not always for microsoft, but then again not against it like this site is ! She calls " a spade ...a spade".

Mary Jo is now with ZDNet (still Ziff Davis).

Zill Davis is not ZDNet:
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=1473

Hi Joe, what's up dude? Sorry I am not blogging as frequently as you post your articles. Simply it's not supposed it's my job to do that right now. BTW, where's is Linus Torvalds? I like that guy, he's so european.

Have a merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!
Ray.-

Hi Joe, what's up dude? Sorry I am not blogging as frequently as you post your articles. Simply it's not supposed it's my job to do that right now. BTW, where's is Linus Torvalds? I like that guy, he's so european.

Have a merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!
Ray.-

Hi Joe, what's up dude? Sorry I am not blogging as frequently as you post your articles. Simply it's not supposed it's my job to do that right now. BTW, where's is Linus Torvalds? I like that guy, he's so european.

Have a merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!
Ray.-

What the HELL happened to this site it looks like my 4 year old designed it! WHERE is MARY JO?!?!?! Does Wilcox write all the stories?!? WTF over?

Why they need to hire Ray Ozzie to replace Bill Gates? I am as young and as good to replace Bill Gates :)

Bahahaha... I sure some of the ZD guys are laughing at some of the nasty comments being posted to MSWatch on this article knowing the reason "she" got moved. Mary Jo: An unbiased 'straight shooter'? Please. More like a lazy, hype-mongering, bottom dweller. As a parasitic hack journalist, she'd do better to write for the horoscope section of the National Enquirer, given her rumor twisting, non-fact checking "talents".

For the record, Joe Wilcox, is a highly respected & thoughtful analyst from Jupiter Research whose content and research reports were PAID FOR by actual Enterprise customers instead of being a linkbaiting, pseudo-journalist like most web publishing hacks. All you have to do is look at his prior work at http://www.microsoftmonitor.com and see that actual thought he put into his work unlike the rumor mill garbage posted weekly on certain other sites.

It's nice that Joe's mom visits his blog!

No it could be his sister !
Whatever ... I don't care... "bruinsensei" comment is total crap anyway !
Joe Wilcox is NOT any of his/her comments !

Who can tell what articles were written by whom as I just went to "microsoft monitor" and the articles don't say who they are written by and there is "No comment" either !

What do you guys have against Mary and Joe? They are both wonderful writers (whose stuff I have been reading for a long time). Mary was rarely too biased. And to put things in perspective, I say this as a Microsoft doubter and a GNU/Linux evangelist. It's people like Neil McAllister that make me want to break a chair. He trolls worse than John C. Dvorak..

@ Ray: I hope you'll set a better example than Bill, Steve, Jim and the rest of those who engaged in illegitimate practices. The world would be better with business ethics.

Who is this guy ??
If you like Linux so much... what are you doing here ??
And as for the last comment: "@ Ray: I hope you'll set a better example than Bill, Steve, Jim and the rest of those who engaged in illegitimate practices. The would be better with business ethics."
You have got to be joking ! It is one thing to say that you disagree with what you think that they should have done, but to say that they "engaged in illegitimate practices" that's BS ! Spoken like the "self confessed" GNU/Linux evangelist you are, and as such should be totally to be disregarded !
And if he really wanted to know what I had against Joe, all he would have to do is read his articles since he got here ! Then he would know !

Where is Ziff Davis hiding Mary Jo? Has anyone seen her, lately?

Hey! Iv'e been on a long holiday in the sun in Australia. It was good. I'm back.

@ Neil: some fair points there. The only thing that struck me as tactless was Joe's choice of the title "When a crane falls -- Duck", referring to a disaster.

Why I am here? I have been reading Microsoft Watch for a long time and Mary's views were critical when it was deserved. I see myself as open to both sides and I can become critical of Linux too. Recently I turned from bring a big Novell fan into a demonstrator over the community sellout (for the benefit of self, as well as 'customers').

My complaints about Microsoft's management need no reiteration. It all documented on the Web, but let me quote some of the current events in Iowa.

Jury Hears Microsoft Competition Suit

,----[ Quote ]
| A judge on Friday told jurors they must accept as fact that a
| federal court found in 1999 that Microsoft holds a monopoly over
| computer operating systems and that it restricted computer
| manufacturers' ability to use competing systems.
|
| [...]
|
| She said she'll show that the company used its monopoly power
| to exclude competition and control prices and that it conspired with
| other companies to restrain trade, maintaining what she called a
| chokehold on software competitors and computer manufacturers.
|
| "It isn't illegal to be successful," Conlin said in opening
| remarks. "We applaud that. ... But you can't freeze out competitors
| and punish and retaliate against people who cooperate with
| competitors. Microsoft did all that and more."
|
| Conlin warned jurors that she would say some unflattering things
| about Microsoft and its billionaire founder Bill Gates, who
| serves as company chairman.
|
| [...]
|
| Conlin's first 3 1/2 hours of opening arguments delved deeply into
| computer industry history and how Microsoft fought off competitors
| attempting to design rival software.
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061201/microsoft_trial.html?.v=1

I don't know if there's a post length limit, so I'll post another two as a standalone comment.

Quote:
--------------------
Today in Iowa, attorneys have once again taken Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT
- news - people ) to court over anti-trust charges associated with
its Windows operating system. In addition to the age-old complaints
about squeezing out competitors and price-fixing, there is a twist:
This case alleges that by bolting together Windows and Internet
Explorer, Microsoft produced software that gummed up people's
computers....

The opening statement by Iowa attorney Roxanne Barton Conlin is
expected to last three to four days. She plans to show the entire
10-hour deposition given by Gates in 1998 to attorneys for the U.S.
Department of Justice....

One minor victory for Microsoft: Gates and Ballmer need only make one
trip to Iowa and so will answer questions from both the prosecution and
defense on the same day--potentially disrupting the "flow" of the
plaintiff's case.

Complaints about lack of choice and high prices have been the theme
song of most of the legal complaints against Microsoft. The Iowa case
also alleges that Microsoft's software caused "drained memory,
decreased speed and an increased incidence of security breaches and
bugs" in its customers' computers....

The plaintiff lawyers contend that Iowan customers of Microsoft are
entitled to as much as $329 million in damages as compensation for
Microsoft overcharges between May 1994 and June 2006. The lawyers are
also seeking compensation for the time people have had to spend
repairing security breaches--a figure that they put at a minimum of $50
million. "The illegal bolting of Internet Explore to the Windows
operating system created a larger 'attack surface'" and made the
operating system more vulnerable, asserts Richard Hagstrom, co-lead
counsel for the plaintiffs. "The damages are based on what people
need to do to protect themselves from security breaches."
-------------------

http://www.forbes.com/2006/11/30/vista-lawsuit-microsoft-tech-cz_ec_1130microsoft.html?partner=yahootix

Comes v. MS Antitrust Trial Begins in Iowa

,----[ Quote ]
| Here's part of what Allchin said about how to deal with the competitive
| threat from Novell then:
|
| "We need to slaughter Novell before they get stronger....If you're
| going to kill someone, there isn't much reason to get all worked up
| about it and angry. You just pull the trigger. Any discussions
| beforehand are a waste of time. We need to smile at Novell while
| we pull the trigger."
|
| [...]
|
| Conlin used a variety of computer-generated illustrations,
| including one that showed 15 icons, each representing what she
| said was an illegal action taken by Microsoft in pursuit of its
| bid to become and remain a monopoly. The icons had titles like
| "exclusionary contract," "technical sabotage," "buying out the
| competition," "espionage," and "deception and misinformation."
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2006120516224886

Thank you, Joe, for honouring freedom of speech.

Fair enough Roy
I also am not against Mary Jo Foley, I had nothing against her at all in actual fact .. I ONLY started writing comments on this site once she left because I felt so strongly about some of the very bad articles that were being written by the likes of Scot Peterson (Is Vista ready? Not for Me on 1st Nov. about Vista RC1 !!) and NOW Joe Wilcox who has erked me something terrible (with pieces like "Microsoft's Miscalculation" what a storm in tea cup that was), and bad writing from Joe Wilcox continues!
I actually sent Mary Jo an email expressing my concern over what has happened at this site since she left and went over to ZDNet (which isn't owned by Ziff Davis (the owner of this site).
Sure I realise that microsoft is not "sqeaky" clean .. but the writing here is very biased (Scot Peterson for example should be ashamed of himself) I strongly urge people who disagree with me to read that particular article that will change their minds quick smart !

I appreciate the understanding, Neil. My second comment has not appeared (yet?). Probably still in the moderating queue...

In any event, I am aware that Joe will be reading those comments, but my defence is not case of being cocky. I read a lot of Joe's stuff before and, whether you like it or not, I think he presents both sides, as one should, where appropriate. If there was bias, not only would we lose repsect for /him/, but also for Jupiter (just look at how IDC or the Yankee Group are toyed with... commissioned studies).

When Mary moved to ZDNet, I immediately subscribed to her feed. So nothing is lost... there are two 'worlds' now, so to speak.

Resent:

Quote:
--------------------
Today in Iowa, attorneys have once again taken Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT
- news - people ) to court over anti-trust charges associated with
its Windows operating system. In addition to the age-old complaints
about squeezing out competitors and price-fixing, there is a twist:
This case alleges that by bolting together Windows and Internet
Explorer, Microsoft produced software that gummed up people's
computers....

The opening statement by Iowa attorney Roxanne Barton Conlin is
expected to last three to four days. She plans to show the entire
10-hour deposition given by Gates in 1998 to attorneys for the U.S.
Department of Justice....

One minor victory for Microsoft: Gates and Ballmer need only make one
trip to Iowa and so will answer questions from both the prosecution and
defense on the same day--potentially disrupting the "flow" of the
plaintiff's case.

Complaints about lack of choice and high prices have been the theme
song of most of the legal complaints against Microsoft. The Iowa case
also alleges that Microsoft's software caused "drained memory,
decreased speed and an increased incidence of security breaches and
bugs" in its customers' computers....

The plaintiff lawyers contend that Iowan customers of Microsoft are
entitled to as much as $329 million in damages as compensation for
Microsoft overcharges between May 1994 and June 2006. The lawyers are
also seeking compensation for the time people have had to spend
repairing security breaches--a figure that they put at a minimum of $50
million. "The illegal bolting of Internet Explore to the Windows
operating system created a larger 'attack surface'" and made the
operating system more vulnerable, asserts Richard Hagstrom, co-lead
counsel for the plaintiffs. "The damages are based on what people
need to do to protect themselves from security breaches."
-------------------

http://www.forbes.com/2006/11/30/vista-lawsuit-microsoft-tech-cz_ec_1130microsoft.html?partner=yahootix

Comes v. MS Antitrust Trial Begins in Iowa

,----[ Quote ]
| Here's part of what Allchin said about how to deal with the competitive
| threat from Novell then:
|
| "We need to slaughter Novell before they get stronger....If you're
| going to kill someone, there isn't much reason to get all worked up
| about it and angry. You just pull the trigger. Any discussions
| beforehand are a waste of time. We need to smile at Novell while
| we pull the trigger."
|
| [...]
|
| Conlin used a variety of computer-generated illustrations,
| including one that showed 15 icons, each representing what she
| said was an illegal action taken by Microsoft in pursuit of its
| bid to become and remain a monopoly. The icons had titles like
| "exclusionary contract," "technical sabotage," "buying out the
| competition," "espionage," and "deception and misinformation."
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2006120516224886