Joe;

Great points made. As you may know, I went to Vista x64 after testing it for some time. Vista x64 beats the tar out of its x86 version and trumps XP x64 version. However after I downloaded the newest RC for SP1 everything ran great for a day or so and then started to bog down a bit. Fortunately I made an image and rolled back my machine to the previous state. Before and after, the TurboBoost is anything but a boost using a 4 gig highend pendrive. My testing using and not using the "Ready Boost" showed little use in improvement.

Network file transfers did however show an improvement and really soon, say within another 6 months it might be as fast as XP Professional x64, and here's hoping for those of us.

There were other marginal gains, but why did my system began to slowly take a hit in performance while on the SP1 Beta?

I didn't install anything new on it at all, odd, and perhaps I am the only one having this "slight" problem. Could it be a driver issue that I am not seeing, or is it something else?

Yes, I've noticed IE dumping a lot more in Vista than in XP, this is certain.

Joe, can you e-mail me?

I have a 64 bit desktop. Two in fact.

One is Ubuntu. The other is Leopard.

Is Vista late to the party *again* ?

Sheesh. All those smart guys in Redmond, and look at the delivery. A year for *this* ?

Still. I cant complain. Two months on Vista, and I now have a laptop of my dreams. Leopard.

---* Bill

This should be called Vi$ta Marketing Pack 1. Not much in it to fix the core problems with it, like app compatibility, or system speed. Not even a rollback to XP patch, which would help some. LOL

What is the coolest thing you can do using Linux that you can't do with Windows or on a Mac?

http://matthewhelmke.net/temp.html

@ Chips

That was great (the Link), made me think a bit with my issues with Microsoft when I read it. So I am fed up with Vista, who isn't...

Swapped out my drives and put Ubuntu x64 on my main dawg and I am good to go -- Thanks Microsoft for showing me the real deal and freeing up my PC after countless hours of reinstalling and configuring, well actually days or weeks worth of work!

Yes, Microsoft Vista was or is the "Buffalo Jump" hurling me off to the Linux-Mac World.

I don't think users will notice the difference on the surface. I'll wait and see on file copy speed, however. I've been running the 64-bit version on a secondary (Quad-core!) machine for a year and have been gravely disappointed with its heavy performance. Still, while any improvement is welcome, I've long left the building and am partying in Linux Vegas these days.

@Zaine Ridling;
Nice, I added your site to my bookmarks, thx's.

@Douglas S. Taylor:
Glad you liked the link, and that Ubuntu and Mac OSX seems to work for you.

I started swapping out my systems 3 or 4 years ago, slowly at first, from XP to Linux. Once a person finds out that some linux distros (Mepis, PCLinuxOS, Mint, Sidux, Kanotix, Ubuntu and others) are very newbie friendly, do not crash or get viri like Windows, even XP, (which was perhaps MS best OS as far as stable) then you start to question yourself as to why use a windows OS when you could use a Linux one that clearly does not have all the problems. Add that is how it starts.
distrowatch.com it will set you free.

@Chips

Thanks for the link(s) and Ubuntu is certainly working out great for me and my family. I would probably (at this point) give away my license of Vista Ultimate away for free, but I don't want to create any enemies in my tiny little town =;)

how come im the only one who doesnt write serious comments

So many people focus on the OS. I agree Ubuntu is great, I and I love it. The biggest problem is APPS for joe user.

OpenOffice is good, but when you have have to have 100% compatibility when sharing documents Office is a must have sadly.

Switching to Ubuntu would force Joe User to move off of apps they may have used for years, like Quicken for example. Wine is not an option for Joe User.

OS X, and probably the best answer for someone wanting to ditch Windows, but still be compatible and work with most of the apps they had with Windows.

@snakedoctor;
"Wine is not an option for Joe User."
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Sure wine is an option for Joe User on Linux to run the apps you just described." Joe User could also buy Crossover Office, which is a little more user friendly, and run those too.

But the fact is, OpenOffice is far better than you are trying to present it as.

KOffice is another good suite, for those who do not need the MS Office compatibility. Did I mention, that GNU/Linux, OpenOffice, KOffice, is free, and malware free? go to distrowatch.com and try a distro today.

So how much for the full standalone versions of Vi$ta Ultimate (boxed version) and Office 2007? About $900 per machine is my guess. Image what a business could save by going to Linux. Image what a business could save by escaping the Vista/Office 2007 upgrade cycle, to be followed soon by the Windows Seven/Office 2009 upgrade cycle.

Just to add, and businesses would also, most likely, be able to do all this (convert to Linux) without buyin new computers.

They could even try all this with GNU/Linux live cd distros, downloaded from distrowatch.com

Chips recommends Mepis, PCLinuxOS, Mint, for new users, businesses as well.

Vista was several years in development. It has been opined by several that in the Vista development period it was thought VCSY could not survive and its patents were therefor free to be used by anyone with the cajones to infringe. It has further been opined that Vista was originally loaded with ?744 and ?521 modules. Vista was originally supposed to be released in early 2007, just as the expense of legal battling with CDC/Ross would bankrupt VCSY. But it didn?t happen; VCSY did not go bankrupt but emerged with a judgement against CDC/Ross of $3.2 million.

In a dither Microsoft (Balmer) announced that release of Vista would be delayed and it was delayed two or three times. It is now thought by some that the Vista in your wife?s laptop needs SP1 to run with speed that exceeds XP. It is thought that SP1 is the ?744 and ?521 guts that were removed from Vista a year ago when VCSY rose from the ashes. With ?744 and ?521 removed from Vista it took Microsoft nearly a year to write work-around coding to make Vista limp along and at least be marketable. So it was released to the market and many people have said that they find it is not as fast or functional as XP.

Now, Balmer (Microsoft) allegedly has said they will release SP1 in early March. That date coincides with the March 7, 2008 date that is the deadline for early mediation that could result in a settlement. If there is a settlement, and SP1 does in fact contain the missing link coding of ?744 and ?521, then release of SP1 should literally bring your wife?s laptop up to speed. If there is no settlement and Microsoft announces another delay in the release of SP1 even the harshest critics of VCSY?s claims will feel that they have been duped

I-Man;

I just came back from your mother's house, and I know it's late and you might be in bed already since you got to get up and go to school in the morning, and say hi to your pop's for me. I'll see him at work anyway.

After I tucked your mother to bed, and somewhere around the time her face was sticking to her bed sheets, yeah we were having a little fun and since your will be a senior next year, you should understand that your mom and I have been, well, having a lot of fun VCSY style if you know what I mean.

It all started out at the bar, the same one that your dad first met your mother, it was right after the 7th fleet was in town and left. Your mother was so tired after working through all of that and all that she had to show for it was some defunked VCSY stock.

Anyway, sorry, I get so nostalgic these days...

While I was slamming your mom, I mean slamming a few shots, someone came up at said, "Hey are you that retard's mom that has been ranting on Joe's site for months now on the VCSY crap?!?!?"

She barely got her head up from under the table in time to see who it was. I didn't really pay any attention, I was distracted. Your mother has certain talents as you have no doubt heard about.

She was plenty mad, and I want you to know this VCSY ranting of yours is brining a lot of frustration down on your family, and after all, your momma has to, well, still work.

So consider your working mom before you rant your crap again or someone might really make it hard on dear old mom.

Besides, she is still quite the little tack to hammer if you know what I mean...