Office Live: Better Off Dead?
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Resurrection must be for real, because my Microsoft small business service account is breathing again. |
Last month I killed Office Live in an act of self defense, after repeated access problems and attempts to move my domain to another registrar. Judging from the comments to that post, there's an Office Live killing spree going on. Not surprisingly, Microsoft wants to put an end to the wanton killing.
This afternoon, Baris Cetinok and I did a postmortem on Office Live, which is when I learned that maybe it wasn't quite dead. So, I'm considering testing the small business service again, hopefully with more, ah, lively results.
Cetinok, who is director of project management and marketing for Office Live, acknowledged some of the problems with the service and explained some of the changes Microsoft plans to make. First, the log-in issue that I and other Office Live users experienced.
"We did have some on-and-off hiccups with our Live ID authentication system," Cetinok said. Transition to Internet Explorer 7 also caused problems, particularly for people using beta versions, he added.
Internet Explorer is the only browser supported by Office Live. During sign-in, Firefox users receive warning: "In order to use Microsoft Office Live, you will need to have Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 or later running on Microsoft Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Microsoft Windows Server 2003."
Cetinok also addressed the topic of domain registrars. In late spring or earlier summer, Microsoft will dramatically change how Office Live handles domains and registrars. The company plans to rush the change out ahead of the next version of Office Live, instead of waiting.
Right now, domains are locked to an Office Live account. I had wanted to transfer the domain registered through Office Live from Microsoft's registrar in Australia to my own in the United States. I learned that only by canceling Office Live could I gain access to the domain. So I killed off the Office Live account.
I registered my first domain in 1995, and I have lots of experience with domain hosting. Microsoft's approach made no sense to me.
Microsoft took the account-tied-to-domain approach as a means of simplifying the process for small businesses, Cetinok explained. Microsoft would handle everything, including the annual domain re-registration. Otherwise, someone might have an account with Office Live but lose the domain.
"We did some things that aren't the best for high-end users," Cetinok said, referring to the approach.
As a user, I wanted to transfer my domain, because my registrar offers private registration. It's common practice for spammers to mine Whois records for valid e-mail addresses. Private registration keeps personal information out of Whois.
Cetinok acknowledged the oversight and promised remedy. "We've been thinking about adding private registration as an add-on, so our customers can pick it," he said.
Registrar is a stickier issue than domain registered with an Office Live account. Unlike most other Webhosts, domain hosting with Office Live means transferring to Microsoft's registrar. The more common approach, known as domain redelegation, is to have the managing registrar associate the domain with a Webhost. My registrar is also a Webhost, and I have the option to use its hosting services or not; there is no tie in, like with Office Live.
"In the U.S., we took that gamble, because only 50 percent of small businesses have a Web site," Cetinok said. Microsoft also took on a cost burden, with respect to paying the registrar for the domain and assuming the cost of support calls. The approach "simplifies the management for the user going forward, but it's benefits versus cost," he said.
The cost comes when the transfers fail, which is commonplace. The success rate is only "about 50-60 percent," Cetinok said. "The reason Google and Yahoo don't do [registrar transfer] is because it greatly reduces support costs." While more difficult for some small businesses to manage, domain redelegation has 90 percent success rate.
With the planned spring-to-early summer changes, "we want to divorce domain name picking from getting an account with Office Live," Cetinok promised. The new mechanism will work similar to other Webhosts, where the user's account is attached to an e-mail address. When I used Yahoo as Webhost, my Yahoo ID logged into the account.
Microsoft already is along the path to the change, as all Office Live accounts require a Windows Live ID, which is an e-mail address.
The changes, while all promising, are still in the future. Resumption of testing would mean my tying a domain to an Office Live account and exposing an e-mail address to spammers. Do I really want Office Live alive or is it better off dead?


Comments (4)
You don't get it, do you Joe? Attacking the domain registration scenario is like saying my new car sucks because the mud flaps aren't working.
I have had great experience with the "rest of the car"...creating a website, making changes to the support database structure, creating a project management project time line, adding FAQs and Knowledgebase, creating customer quotes, creating email sales campaigns.
It's really quite a package: Online, and priced extremely well.
You are hearing all this from a serious Microsoft "doubter"...moi. But, are we all so jaded that we can't see a good MSFT app when it stares us in the face?
Posted by Ray Myers | January 13, 2007 11:24 AM
Joe,
Keep your finger on the Esc key when it comes to Office Live. As I said in an earlier comment it's still not ready for primetime. Cetinok may say it's Beta Users having problems with sign-in but it just isn't so. My site is not Beta and I have problems almost every time I sign in. Microsoft has really had people's attention with Office Live, its a shame they're bungling this so badly. Speaking of Beta users they've been left in Beta and are still there. The switch to version 1.5 happened in November. They were left out. MS is claiming they will transition them at the end of January but that it will take months. Hmm...
I'm hanging in there to see what happens. If nothing else it's interesting to watch.
altArtifact
Posted by altArtifact | January 14, 2007 3:36 AM
I used Office Live recently. I have nothing good to say about it. I was in the market for a small-biz online productivity suite, and even gave up my credit card number. Everything after that went south for hours of frustration. Registration crashed again and again, domain registration (forced!) failed, feedback failed (and was never answered - weeks later - when it finally did not crash), constant AJAX-ish problems where button clicks would not work, and on and on. It was unbelievably, horribly ghastly, and eons behind its competitors. I really wanted to be able to use it for my company since we use MS Office, but it was so god-awful that it will be a *long* time before I trust my business data to any of Microsoft's me-too web garbage. We're now customers of a competing, actually functional online collab suite.
Posted by PE | January 15, 2007 4:27 PM
Joe,
I appreciate the two articles you have shared here about Microsoft Live Basics. I too have been testing Microsoft Live, the free version for about a half a year. As far as I am concerned, there are some major issues that still need to be addressed by Microsoft. Problems logging in to the email, logging into the website edit mode, and very slow online access times to pull up an email using IE7. The lack of an html editor for the website mode and not to mention your very real problems with the domain name registration that concerned me when I registered one with them about 7 months ago. I did not want to register a domain name that was extremely valuable from a domain name standpoint for testing the service. So I created one that was just a quick made-up one. In fact, because it is difficult to do anything with the website, I am still in a testing mode and not even willing to let the world know what the domain name is here.
I set up one email account with the website domain name for testing purposes. I know the free Office Live version does not have automatic email forwarding, nor does it have anything but online access using IE6 or IE7. This is a real negative for email as far as I am concerned. Microsoft would have been better off doing something like Google, and give a free top quality service, with a bring your own domain name or that charges for the domain name but gives great email service and allows any email program to download the messages with. I went into my e-mail box tonight and saw several messages over the last three months that keep saying Microsoft is going to update the e-mail service. We'll see if and when that occurs.
Microsoft really needs to revamp and address both the email problems and the lack of even a basic html editor, and consider the negative PR that is being placed into the minds of users that are trying this service out. Maybe the paid versions are better, but until I see a good to great free product, I am not willing to pluck down the dollars on a monthly basis for either the Office Live Essentials or the Office Live Premium versions.
Posted by JW | January 24, 2007 4:24 AM