To their credit, Lenovo has a pretty good installer/uninstaller that allows a user to get rid of unwanted ThinkPad features and still have them around to re-install later if desired.

My two year old ThinkPad R52 came with a trial version of Norton Anti-virus, which I promptly dumped of course. That was the only real "crapware" on that machine.

Too bad Lenovo is now willing to climb into the sack with Microsoft and default to the awful Search and other MS IE7 things. Users will simply dump that a default to Google. I really do like some MS programs like Word 2007 and OneNote. But their Search and "Live" products are just confusing and poorly marketed.

I would prefer nothing, but I would prefer having Live installed instead of that terrible google software

I would personally prefer no Craplets installed without my approval.
I dont mind the setup asking me if i would like to install this or that.
I can always say no to that, but there may be some users who would like things automated, so this would be a nice option for them too.

The main thing which users want is customization, i would infact love it if even windows asks me during setup would i like to install, Windows Movie Maker, DVD Maker, Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer and all those Microsoft Addons.

It truly is crap.

I had a new laptop from Compaq that came with a program called Vongo. The thing was like a virus. After I uninstalled it, it would try to reinstall itself on start up.

I had to go online and get help from Compaq on how to remove the nasty thing.

In addition, I hate software on new computers that only works for 30 days. This is also crap. If it doesn't fully work and for free, I don't need it. I always spend my first day with a new computer uninstalling all the cripple- and nag-wear.

And another thing...

We purchased an "entertainment" HP laptop recently. The 12-year-old of the household observed that the manufacturer had loaded two applications for playing DVDs. The applications appeared to engage in a tug-of-war when we inserted a DVD.

We chose MS Media Center as the default, but we came away with the impression that the laptop designers missed an opportunity to impress us. Instead of providing the user a clear choice, they left an apparent conflict.

When I find myself with at least 15 icons to different AOL, Symantec, Google, Apple, Real, etc., services and programs I feel like just throwing the computer across the room because I would expect to not have to "clean" the computer of garbage on the first startup. Instead, I would much rather have Microsoft's pre-installed services and programs, which work seamlessly and together, loaded and working.

It's so refreshing to hear others saying the same things I think about. WHY do (almost) all PC makers have to include all the crap that comes with the OS, other than to make extra money from advertising and sponsorship?
I, for one, now refuse to buy PCs with a pre-installed operating system and a hidden partition that, if your PC dies, wipes away everything and re-installs all the pooh you've spent months trying to get rid of. And what sort of fool idiot puts data on the same partition as programs by default? It wouldn't seem so stupid as it is, were Microsoft to provide a tool within the operating system, (not an optional extra like TweakUI of which you have to know the existence), that allowed you to alter these stupid default locations to somewhere safer and more sensible. Perhaps it's time for Windows consumers to demand PCs with an installation disk devoid of crapware - or at least a simple and reliable method of removing those items they don't want.
I could expand this rant to complain about English being the only (common) language in the world that hasn't been added to the list of languages that Microsoft doesn't support other than in its spelling checker, but that's too off-topic...

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