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March 7, 2007 6:06 PM

The Dynamics of QuickBooks and Great Plains



Intuit isn't waiting for Microsoft's Convergence conference to take swipes at its competitor. In fact, Intuit is boasting about thousands of new QuickBooks Enterprise customers pilfered from Microsoft Dynamics GP (Great Plains).

Microsoft kicks off Convergence on March 11, and the company is boasting 8,000 planned attendees. Heck, who wouldn't want to go to San Diego in March? Convergence is Microsoft's premiere event for Dynamics products and the midmarket.

This week, as a Convergence-competitive first strike, Intuit set up a Web site offering customers resources for switching to QuickBooks from another product. The site's final objective is to connect prospective switchers to local solutions providers with expertise in QuickBooks Enterprise.

Inuit is trying to capitalize on what it claims is growing momentum for QuickBook Enterprise customers, particularly among midmarket businesses using other products. Intuit claims 6,000 new customers from businesses using another accounting system.

Gary Wiessinger, Intuit's Mid Market Group director for product management and product development, said a significant percentage of these switchers are coming from Great Plains.

QuickBooks and Great Plains

Intuit launched QuickBooks Enterprise four years ago, after finding many midmarket businesses used the standard versions of the accounting software. QuickBooks is a product for small businesses.

"It was a bit of a pleasant surprise for us," Wiessinger said.

Microsoft moved into midmarket accounting software sooner than Intuit, after completing its Great Plains acquisition in April 2001. The software would become an anchor product for Microsoft's Business Solutions division. Microsoft added other products to the stable, including Navision and Sales Management Systems, mostly through acquisitions.

With the acquisitions, Microsoft also inherited disparate partner channels that the company has been slow to combine with its existing channel programs. In September 2005, Microsoft rebranded Business Solutions products as "Dynamics," as part of a broader integration of application features, branding and channel programs. In 2006, Microsoft combined Business Solutions with its Office—or Information Worker—group to form the Business division.

Intuit claims to have successfully exploited some of Microsoft's integration problems by offering clear pricing, easily accessible product information and a cleaner partner model. Even today, potential Dynamics customers typically need to place a phone call just to get pricing information. The process reflects some of Microsoft's channel acquisition legacy. Pricing information for other products, such as Office, Windows Server 2003 or Windows Vista, is readily available on Microsoft's Web site.

"Our pricing is all right there on the Web site," Wiessinger said.

Both companies heavily rely on their sales channels. Intuit has 30,000 of what it calls Pro Advisors. Under a pilot program, Inuit also has trained 70 Solution Providers, which is a fraction of Microsoft's 9,000 Dynamics partners.

Across the Battle Lines
Competition is fiercer than ever between Intuit and Quicken. Microsoft is pushing hard against Intuit in the market for small-business accounting software. Microsoft even offers a free Office Accounting Express product. But Intuit appears unshaken.

NPD Accounting

Retail sales of Office Accounting 2007 are insignificant compared to entrenched competitor Intuit QuickBooks. Intuit's product commands more than 90 percent retail market share, as measured in dollars, compared with about 2 percent for Microsoft's software, according to NPD.

Maybe Microsoft needs to better understand how—ah, pardon the pun—market dynamics have changed. In the 1990s, Microsoft easily vanquished market leaders like Lotus, Netscape, Novell and WordPerfect. Granted, Microsoft took on competitors with huge market share, but also in growth markets. There was plenty of headroom for a rival to come in and snatch away control.

Maybe Microsoft should learn lessons from its own dominance. In mature software markets, where one product is hugely dominant, Microsoft faces the same adoption barriers as its competitors that are trying to oust Office or Windows.

Microsoft couldn't provide someone to speak about Intuit's market claims or Great Plains progress. It's understandable. Timing is difficult, as Microsoft executives prepare for the start of Convergence. We'll make sure that Microsoft gets its say in posts related to Convergence.

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Comments (7)

microstiff :

Again, it's not the product it's the company - MSFT - that has DIMINISHED the product.

I am a Great Plains Certified Accounting Application Specialist (CAAS). This means I know a lot about accounting and Great Plains.

This is (was?) a great system that is currently buried in Microsoft inaction, poor action or no action. Any action taken has been to confuse the customer, much like other activities at the Softie (such a cuddly name for a company just the opposite, don't you think?)

I currently use Quickbooks and teach it to and install it for others.

My choice? Intuit. Simple to the customer, great GUI, intuitive, and easier to train with. They are not the confused company they are competing against.

I was trained on GP by GP employees. They can't really be too happy now that they are pseudo-Softies.

awarecustomer :

Customers are increasing aware of the choice they make when it comes software these days. The question is do you want a torture-ware from RedmondSoft of or go with smaller companies who can deliver and help them grow.

mike :

I think Sage Software is the Best complete solution with ABRA and MAS to put Great Plains to shame

non profit organization :

we are a non profit and cannot afford another version of quick books, let alone buy a different one! we just got a computer with vista and that took all we could afford, the old one crashed for the 3rd time in 13 months. i understand from reading the net that quick books 2003 will not get anything to make it work on vista? if that is true, then we will have to find another program that is aLOT cheaper than quick books since they want you to buy a newer version every few years!! or we will have to buy xp for this new computer and start over again. thanks quick books for all your non help.

non profit organization :

we are a non profit and cannot afford another version of quick books, let alone buy a different one! we just got a computer with vista and that took all we could afford, the old one crashed for the 3rd time in 13 months. i understand from reading the net that quick books 2003 will not get anything to make it work on vista? if that is true, then we will have to find another program that is aLOT cheaper than quick books since they want you to buy a newer version every few years!! or we will have to buy xp for this new computer and start over again. thanks quick books for all your non help.

In response to the the non profit, may I suggest looking into these:

From www.avanquestusa.com:
Bookkeeper 2007 - $29.95
Small Business Pro - $89.95

From http://www.turbocash.net/index.php?option=com_jd-wiki&Itemid=226&id=countries:usa:
TurboCASH Accounting (Runs on Vista) - Free - Open Source GNU/GPL License.

You may wish to inquire these companies to see how well they handle non profit uniquenesses.

--Marty K - Quickbooks Pro Advisor.

Business Analysis :

Quickbooks isn't even in the same market as Dynamics GP. You will find a large number of businesses re-migrating to Dynamics as they grow.

Real-world requirements that Quickbooks Enterprise cannot handle (which Dynamics can):

- Full safe-guarded concurrency with proper transaction logging and back-up jobs. This is mainly because Intuit is using a server platform that Dynamics abandoned years ago (for SQL). This is also why they don't reccommend its use in an environment with more than 20 users (that leaves out two-thirds of my Dynamics clients already)

- Single-segment account numbers = OUCH! I can't tell you how much that hurts reporting ability, analytics, and budgeting accross multiple product-lines and business units.

- No third party or native MRP integration. I don't mean a third party program running MRP that integrates after-hours with the product, I mean something that is built-into the product. Having a couple manufacturing reports does not a manufacturing-centric system make.

This is just from looking at the setup guide and white papers. I'm sure that the iceburg can get pretty big if you look even further at the two products.

I think those moving from GP to QB-Enterprise either a) weren't large enough to make full use of GP in the first place or b) never had a properly configured GP system.

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