Really Joe? You can't get to this site from ANYWHERE on the Microsoft website. Only direct links will get you there. You're knocking Microsoft about something that nobody knows about not being available? If a tree falls in a forest, but nobody knew that the tree ever existed, did the tree really fall?

And clearly this is a reaction to all the complaints about Get A Mac ads. Should this have been available at the beginning? Maybe. But now they're continuing to do clean-up because of silly knocking articles from the press and bloggers, exactly like this one.

No doubt MS was getting the new site ready more for Windows Seven than Vista. Although, really Vista and Seven, most likely will have the same compatibility problems, and both are almost the same OS. Seven being the minor release based almost entirely on Vista, with a splash of touch drivers thrown in. More unless software, and another windows upgrade cycle=money, and lots of it. Somehow, Seven will break some kind of competitors apps, have not all windows done this in the past?

Sure MS will come up with some kind of list of apps and games that might work with Vista. Heck, look at the fine job they did with Vista Ultimate extras. LOL

Folks;

I've said it before, I'll say it again... Everything that I've seen so far and read about is that Seven is nothing more than what it seems to me as simply a "Vista SE" akin to win98 SE was to win98.

So far, I haven't read anything like there is a new kernel specifically for the new operating system, that is, if I missed anything.

I cannot see Microsoft writing a new kernel in the window planned for the new release of Seven. I also know with the exceptions of multi-touch components and support, what else are we truly getting under the hood, and mind you, unless we get a new kernel, what's really under the hood?

I don't plan on needing an operating system with multi-touch technology on my laptop(s) or desktop(s).

MS is touting a wee bit, though it seems like the reporters are of course sensationalizing what Seven will bring to the table rather than Redmond.

@Chips

Windows SE didn't break any apps that Win98 could run, least none that I can remember... Could be wrong here in my memory.

I've read that Windows Seven uses the same sort of drivers that Vista uses right now, so they say. If so indeed, then this proves my point that MS is using the same kernel.
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As time progresses throughout the Beta releases there will be more facts, and of course, sensationalism -- The latter I can do without.

I believe that MS will spend a few million dollars more (have to) in their add campaigns if they want to really push Vista users such as myself to get on board with "Vista SE."

I am tired what Windows Seven may have, let's see what Redmond can deliver.

Unfortunately WinFS was stripped out early on in development. I know Billy Gates was crying that it couldn't get it right and up and running and that's something else, I mean with all the billions he has and still couldn't get it going...

With bated breath, I'll wait and see when MS delivers as usual.

Joe says "Isn't this the kind of thing you do before an operating system ships? Release compatibility tools for real, not in beta?"

I think that is what Microsoft is doing. I think we're about to see an announcement: MSFT is stepping into the XML age.

Being able to fit the client computer with an agent is the best method for determining just what kind of system will be running your OS. Then, you scrub memory down to bare metal and squirt in the OS optimized for that machine.

Of course, you have to have an ecology to allow the agent(s), the OS and services based software (aka service-as-a-software) to do live management on the OS and the application suites.

And it helps if you're not fighting with others about being able to do that sort of thing now.

MS needed to make this now because the crappy developers seem to refuse to admit that XP is ending...but as usual...Microsoft takes all the crap from press even though it's not all their fault...way to go.

I don't think Joe's audience is smart enough to figure out what Portuno is saying. Maybe a couple of clues will help!

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 29, 2006

Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. Receives a Notice of Allowance From The U.S. Patent & Trademark Office For a Patent Application Covering Various Aspects Of The XML Enabler Agent

Fort Worth, Texas, March 29, 2006--Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. (OTCBB: VCSY) announced today that it has received a notice of allowance from the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) for a patent application serial number 09/882,494 for a "Web-based collaborative data collection system." The notice of allowance states that all 41 patent claims of the patent application are deemed to be allowable to issue in a patent. VCSY intends to file with the USPTO to issue the patent shortly thereafter with all 41 claims being valid and enforceable.

This patent application covers various aspects of the XML Enabler Agent. The XML Enabler Agent, which was featured in the "XML Handbook" by Charles Goldfarb, 4th edition was created to XML-enable any database and developed with the Emily XML Scripting Language.
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FRIDAY, APRIL 20, 2007

Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. Files Patent Infringement Lawsuit Against Microsoft Corporation

Fort Worth, TX, April 20, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE)? Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. (OTCBB: VCSY)(www.vcsy.com) announced today that on April 18, 2007, Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. filed suit for patent infringement against Microsoft Corp. in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Texas. VCSY claims that the Microsoft .Net System infringes U.S. Patent No. 6,826,744.

77,000 devices and components LOL when is the last time you actually took a look at some of those so called supported devices shit there's crap in there thats 10yrs old but can it support my canon scanner from from 4yrs ago Hell No and canon just say they are working with MS to provide a drive LOL yeah like thats ever gonna happen NOT SATA chip sets are still not supported natively you still need to supply a disk with the driver on or make your own personalised copy with all your drivers included on the win install disk this kind of crap just makes me wanna smack billie upside his head and yell wake up and smell the turd you looser

My god.... the sheer stupidity of this article had me nearly in tears as I was reading it.

"Break my broomsticks, Vista compatibility problems really frustrate people. I've got a friend who does Japanese translation for a camera manufacturer. He bought a new notebook with Windows Vista, only to find the translation software is incompatible with the operating system. Solution: He went to Fry's Electronics and bought Windows XP. He has no Vista experience for which to remain positive. Vista isn't even an option."

Did you ever consider that maybe this camera manufacturer should have gotten off their ass and put forth more effort in developing their software under Vista? Especially, as you said regarding the Compatibility Center, "Seventeen months after Vista shipped everywhere"? The majority of other software makers have already done this, but there are still some software companies out there who seem to just expect their software to work under Vista because it worked under XP. They need to wake up and stop blaming Microsoft, and so do you.

On the point about MS releasing this as a beta product, I do agree that 17 months is a bit long to have this in development, and that they should have started working on this earlier. I don't however agree that they shouldn't have released this in beta as implied in the article. I think releasing beta products like this is the best way to make the product better. Put the software out in incomplete form, and ask for feedback from those willing to test the software out. Using the public as beta testers is FAR more effective than in-house beta testing.

The request to "check back soon" is quite amusing though. That's definitely a point against MS for putting it out in beta, then saying check back soon.

Check out http://www.appreadiness.com/ and you'll stop blabbering. Vista App Compact Center is its new place.

Remember kids, it's ok to bash Microsoft for other peoples problems. Hardware support isn't 100% Microsoft's problem, they are not responsible for writing drivers for every piece of hardware under the sun.

wow, Joe you sound pathetic. this line is simply hilarious: " can't update my Nokia N95 to the newest firmware because there are compatibility problems with the updater and Windows Vista Service Pack 1" maybe you should e-mail Nokia to actually update their program, one single company can't be responsible for 1,000 other companies around the world.