Well, I've been using IE7 and Vista Ultimate for about 4 months now. As to any problems with IE7, none - I'm just thrilled that it suppots more CSS compatiblity than before. Things like the VALIGN bug, etc.

But overall, it rocks.

What's the real issue?

I use IE7 on Vista and XP. The program works just fine, thanks, and anybody who finds an extra click on the info bar and the other security based protections to be too much fuss to deal with should box up their computers and return them to place of purchase. People who put convenience before protection are a risk to all users of the internet, more likely to be the owners of compromised spambots/malware spreaders because they're turned off all of the new protective features.

I/we have no had no technical problems with IE7 on any of my office machines. The same could be said for IE6.

But IE7 has been poorly received by every employee. Without exception everybody wants to go back to IE6.

Don't suggest going to firefux or operduh. The complaints regarding IE7 are replicated in those other browsers.

The biggest complaint?

Tabbed browsing!

I sure hope Microsoft sees the errors in their ways as soon as possible. We need to return to the good ole days.

Either it's a slow news day or you were fishing for an article to generate some feedback. So, here it is.

This is a load of horse hockey. I've been using IE7 since a couple of days after it's release and it's BY FAR the best IE release bar none. Haven't run into a SINGLE website that doesn't work. CSS sheets are MUCH BETTER, tabbed browsing is better, scaled printing (how overdue was that?) and a much more secure browser.

Now people are whining that it's too locked down? Given me a break.

IE 7 is great. One problem and one slight problem is that when launched first up, it takes a second or two to fully functional. Other then that it's a great update to IE6. Infact i cannot imagine using IE 6 anymore again.

installing IE6 fixed the problems
Uninstalling IE and installing Firefox or Opera fixes all the problems.

Rob S.

As a MS employee I get paid to say these things...

Hey Joe,

What about the tens of thousands people for which IE7 works fine and for which extra security features will mean a safer expeience? That's called the "Silent Majority". Never heard of that?

Again, a Joe Wilcox acid and bashing article.

As a MS employee I get paid to say these things...
Rob S.

For example.

"tabbed browsing is better"

Is better than what? IE6 never had tabbed browsing, unless you mean "tabbed browsing is better ... than not having tabbed browsing".

CyberSurfer

And what makes you the authority on the "silent majority" thinks of IE7?

On what grounds can you claim the "silent majority" is happy that the interface they have come to know inside out has been changed beyond all recognition overnight without any forewarning (other than an automatic update notification - if they are lucky)?

Ladies and Gentlemen the peoples republic of IE7 has spoken on behalf of the silent majority. Big thumbs up then.

I have used IE 7 early on. I have not had any problems with the application or websites. I'm not sure why all the complaints.

"The biggest complaint?
Tabbed browsing!"

Then turn it off:
Tools --> Internet Options-->Tabs(Settings)
Then uncheck Enable Tabbed Browsing".

Doesn't matter either way; Microsoft has yet to see a reason to release a unix version of Internet Explorer. Hell, they've even abandoned the Mac. Wonder why? :D Cannot compete, aye?

I like IE7 so much that I dumped Firefox. I don't think IE7 is too locked down, I don't think IE7 is too chatty, and I don't think IE7 is inconvenient to use. In addition, I don't have any technical complaints about IE7.

I love IE7's new interface. In addition, I like the way it handles RSS Feeds, Quick Tabs, New Tab, and (finally!) shrink-to-fit printing.

The mindset of some people is that all change is bad, but I see IE7 as a dramatic improvement over IE6.

Quote from above:

"IE 7 is horrible!" said Mark Brugler. The browser "crashed every time I tried to watch a video." The technical director for a theatre in Tucson, Ariz. complained that he "didn't like the fact that [IE 7] was forced upon me via Microsoft updates and I was not given the choice to install it."

Fact:

MS Update asks you 4 times in separate LARGE dialog boxes if you want to install IE7. Second, from the error that the browser crashed during video, I would have as an IT tech assumed that the video software plugins were not updated. A quick look at the video sites would probably have corrected the problem.

I have been using IE7 for several months now and i am more than happy with it most of the time except it does cause several sites not to function correctly. This sometimes makes it difficult if not impossible to download files from these websites forcing me to use either Firefox or Opera to do so.

Overall i like the look and after a bit of getting used to the Tabbed browsing.

I think that Microsoft should start listening to it's customers and start taking a few of their complaints more seriously and bring out an update to fix these small annoying glitches.

K12IT wrote: "Fact: MS Update asks you 4 times in separate LARGE dialog boxes if you want to install IE7."

The guy felt like he had no choice. That's why I let the whole comment stand, rather than truncating it. Perception is hugely important to companies like Microsoft.

Before coming to Microsoft Watch, I was an an analyst with JupiterReserch. A few years ago, one of Jupiter's surveys revealed that about one third of Windows XP users had no firewall protection. Technically, this is false, because Windows XP has a built-in firewall. But I didn't discount the finding simply because the people were wrong. The data revealed a larger problem: That these users didn't know that Windows XP had an installed firewall.

Likewise, the reader's response about Microsoft forcing IE 7 on him is significant, because that's what he believes. Also, other Microsoft Watch readers expressed similar perspective.

Joe

CyberSurfer wrote: "What about the tens of thousands people for which IE7 works fine and for which extra security features will mean a safer experience?"

Unfortunately, there were many more anti- than pro-IE 7 reader comments. If this was intended to be a "bashing article," as you claim, I could have written a lengthy blog just using the many negative comments. Instead, I tried to be fair by including comments on both sides. If there is a "Silent Majority," as you say, they need to make more noise.

Reader feedback was the impetuous for this blog post. The Internet is so increasingly dangerous, a story about effective security features would be a refreshing change. Most readers didn't respond that way.

Joe

StevieD: Tabbed browsing can be switched off. Stop whining and use your head for a change.

I think IE is doing down a good road but as far as corporate implmentations go I think IE7 is a mini-project. Those security warnings often confuse the corporate user which is at a competence level that most IT admins forget about. I think a successful IE7 implmentation in a corporate environment will involve extensive testing and modification of security settings to provide for a fairly painless experience for the end user.

I think considering the changes in the browser the end user should have been given a choice to opt in rather than getting this code rammed down their throat. After IE7 was released I recieved a small flurry of calls from friends trying to resolve thier plugin issues so that they could use their browser again. Many did the knee jerk reaction "how do I uninstall this garbage?".

Microsoft never did make a version of Internet Explorer for OS/2 Warp (now eComStation http://www.ecomstation.com ). I have no way of knwoing if it works or not. I use SeaMonkey from Mozilla. http://www.mozilla.org/searmonkey (IIRC on the URL). If they did make an OS/2-eCS version of IE7, I would give it a try.

After allowing Microsoft to install IE7, I discovered that ESRI ArcCatalog from the ArcGIS Desktop 9.1 would not work. Did not try ArcMap, but without ArcCatalog, my ArcGIS suite was unusable. ESRI forum confirmed problems. Took about 1 1/2 hours to find the knowledge base article describing how to remove IE7, and remove.

Microsoft Internet Explorer, in Lituanian, means
"Hack Me" and that is just what happens when you use it. Yea, you can get away with IE7 for a while, and then, when your computer "slows down" Microsoft will
tell you you need to "add more Memory, or better yet, get a NEW Operating system along with a new computer, because trojans and viruses (that are unique to Windows, but are almost never present in Apple or Linux based operating systems) have destroyed your old one." Why would you trust a company that has issued over 50 "updates" (an update is a euphism for a flaw)on their products. I recommend "updating"
to a superior free product called Kubuntu and then get Firefox and virtually stop all viruses altogether.

I also updated to IE7 though I did see all the dialog boxes confirming my choice. I do tend to keep my MS software current even though I prefer not to use IE for my web browsing. I choose Netscape as my preferred browser and was very upset to find out that installing IE7 completely killed my Netscape 8.0 browser. The browser will not even launch now that the upgrade has been applied and I have been left using Firefox. I do not want to use IE7 for my regular browsing and only resort to IE when something doesn't support Netscape or Firefox but now I am hosed unless I revert to IE6 where everything else worked just fine.

We uninstalled IE7 on XPs here because of Outlook 2003 compatibility issues. Yes, both XP and Office were fully patched. However, with IE7 installed, header information in e-mails (to, from, date, subject) would not print. Uninstalled IE7 and the problem went away.

This might be one cause

Wininet.dll has changed it's error handling with the install of IE7. It only checks for null pointers now. This has been a long ongoing argument at MS.

If you are an application developer or have 3'd party applications using WinInet and you start getting crashes in these functions, take a look at the pointer values getting passed to these functions. You are going to have to check the passed parameters more completely. I have seen problems occur with 3'd party FTP programs.

See
Changes in WinInet API validation code could lead to Unexpected Behavior
http://blogs.msdn.com/wndp/archive/2005/08/18/453124.aspx

Try opening a page that relies on a behaviour. It will take over all your processor and slow your entire system down to unusability (not just IE, the entire computer).

Our application uses the webservices.htc behaviour from Microsoft. Works well in IE 6 and in fact we've stuck by Microsoft IE so much that we've told people that they can't use any other browser to access our application. Now MS goes and changes things to make it so their own tech doesn't work.

I had similar results with IE 7 slowing the entire computer to a halt.

However, after uninstalling all "toolbars" and doubling the RAM (1GB -> 2GB), I have yet to see this browser cause any further problems.

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I've never had any significant issue with IE7.
IE7 with a small addon called "IE7Pro" is the best choice,imo.

The one irritation I've noticed with IE7 is printing web pages. If you click on the printer icon, it prints everything to your default printer however it is currently set.

You don't have a chance to change printers and you don't have the opportunity to specify pages or setup because the usual printer dialog box doesn't come up. It means you have to go to print preview first, then click the printer icon and you do get the printer dialog box.

I've had no problems, 1, and problems 9, with the IE7 upgrade across 10 machines. We're back to IE6.

A simpler solution to the IE7 upgrade is Firefox, no problems on the same machines.

All the benefits, none of the pain.

I've had no problems, 1, and problems 9, with the IE7 upgrade across 10 machines. We're back to IE6.
XP Pro, SP2.

A simpler solution to the IE7 upgrade is use Firefox, no problems on the same machines.

I switched over 7 of my computers to IE7 in November. The computeres are all running XP and vary from 6 months to 5 years old. I did not have any installation issues and all 7 browsers are running fine after over 2 months of use. I don't understand what all the fuss is about??? It took a few weeks to get used to the way the IE7 tabbed browsing works. But now that i am used to it i would never go back to IE6. At the present time I really can't think of anything in the browser that i absolutely hate. Being able to customize the search feature would be nice (options like searching the page you're on) and also being able to move the icons away from the lower right corner of the toolbar would also be nice. I have 2 more computers to switch over, but those are used by slightly older employees that i know will be totally confused by the tabbed browsing and security features. They still insist on waiting for the dial tone before dialing their cell phones!

Internet Explorer 7 crashes when I look at videos.

I just installed the latest version (SP2) of IE7 under XP SP2. When I try to view any videos (eg MSN News), the msn video player starts, but crashes within a few seconds. I've sent in countless error reports tp Microsoft support, but so far have received no response.

Any ideas on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated.

HP Director, a program bundled with HP printers/scanners, is used to manage scanned documents. That is, until IE 7 is installed. Per HP support:

Issue
After installing Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 on the computer, the HP Director software window does not display when attempting to open the software.
Solution
For many HP products a solution is available which addresses the issue. To see if the solution for your product is available and then correct the issue, follow the directions below.

1.
Click Start, All Programs, then HP.
2.
Select HP Software Update, and accept the update titled Critical update to prevent or resolve an HP Director issue. The description for the update is This update prevents or resolves an issue with HP Director screens which may not function properly after upgrading to Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.
3.
Follow the on-screen directions to install the update.

Workaround
If you have tried the steps above and the solution for your product is not yet available, HP advises customers to use the following workaround:

1.
Open the HP Director software. Do not click anything else on your screen until Step 2 is completed.
2.
Press the Alt key and the Space bar together and select Minimize from the menu that displays in the upper left corner of the window. If necessary, click it again until HP Director minimizes.
The HP Director software now appears as an item on the Task Bar.
3.
Click HP Director on the Task Bar. The software opens and displays normally.
4.
Repeat the steps above each time the HP Director software is used.
NOTE: The HP Director window may appear larger than normal, but the software is functional.

Cause
In October 2006, Microsoft released Internet Explorer 7. The HP Director software that shipped with some HP products introduced between 2002 and 2004 may not be compatible with Internet Explorer 7. The HP Solution Center software, which replaced HP Director software, does not exhibit this issue with Internet Explorer 7

PS, regarding the previous post about HP Director:

The aforementioned critical update may also be located by visiting hp.com and searching for CIT207355-HPCOM-PATCH-v8.exe

Release Date: 2007-01-17, Version: 1.0.0.0

Description

This update restores missing icons and contents of HP Director screens which may not function properly after upgrading to Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.

Operating system(s): Microsoft Windows XP
Download file size: 925.55k

SBS 2003 freaks out if using Outlook 2003. You can not remove from updates.
Alot of ActiveX controls must reload and Some JAVA as well.

The Worst is Yahoo Mail.
Once installed it breaks the ablity to cut and paste from email to Word. I think its all the AJAX they use but its been 2 month and no fix. just ask yahoo answers.
Sorry STILL not ready for prime time.

IE 7 crashed my computer so many times I gave up using it and am very happy with Firefox.

I make webpages. There was a time when web designers made pages with tables and nested tables, with FONT attributes, and, while we all were okay with making webpages like this, we all knew that obfuscating your content and your styling was a true hassle.

Now, the best way to go is to use DIV and SPAN tags, coupled with CSS2 and 3. Sure the learning curve has gone way up, but web design is now more logical. We would die if we didn't have access to attrbutes like "float" or "position."

Too bad IE has never provided consistent support for neither block nor inline elements. And honestly IE7 is no better.

Actually, IE7 is worse. With IE6, you could use a CSS hack that everyone knows: html>body. Now, IE7 won't accept this workaround. It's getting harder and harder to make webpages that will look as intended in IE.

I can make a page, have it XHTML 1.1 and CSS2 validated, and it'll look perfect in Opera, Safari, Konqueror, and Firefox. Then I'll open it in IE and spend the next 10 hours re-writing the scripting.

Then I'll open up my task manager to see that IE is using on average, twice as much resources as Firefox or Opera.

I now can't trust Microsoft and turned off automatic update so I now have to inspect every single thing with them. While IE7 was a little more like Firefox and considerably more tweekable than IE6, when shoved down your throat you have to quickly take out time to learn the system in order to function efficiently. While viewing something like Myspace it constantly made FlashPlayer crash and if you were in the middle of writing an email or editing you profile page you just lost it all. After about the tenth time I got rid of it means it didn't do it with IE6 and this was on an all new freshly installed OS and 3rd party softwares! However I am surprised to note that I found uninstall child simple and other posts even from an IT guy and the author John Pallato complained of having to reinstall IE6 or having uninstall problems...go to add/remove programs and after uninstalling IE7, IE6 resumed right where it was prior!

My last post got deleted, for some reason (on the 28th).

In short, IE7 was installing by default if you had 'automatically download and install', or if you had 'download but don't automatically install' (in the second case, it didn't give you the option to choose what you wanted to install -it demanded happening at shutdown.

Today, I just performed two XP installations for a customer, and neither has Internet Explorer 7 listed as a critical or security update. It's disappeared from the push list.

I downloaded Internet Explorer 7 last night and at first I was impressed with the new feature and design. But early this morning when I tried to download music, movies, and e-mail friends and family....The stuff I was downloading would either stop at 80% or at times not load at all. Likewise with my e-mail, I have some diffuclty sending items. And half the contents I see on the web takes a little bit longer to upload any images, texts, etc. If I had known IE 7 was a beta, I never would have downloaded this rubish!!

IE7 Small Print Problem from Outlook: After installing IE7 on Win XP PCS using Outlook XP/2000, intermittent emails print in unreadably small font size. These are HTML emails. Outlook apparently uses IE7's engine. Apparently this was identified some time ago, but no fix yet from Microsoft. Otherwise, IE7 seems fine. But, this is a big problem for us.

I down loaded Expolyer 7 on my computer a few days ago and it is working but I downloaded it on my wifes computer and clicked on and all it will do is say it is connecting but it has not yet. I've left it run for an hour and it will not connect. Any ideas about the problem?

I down loaded Expolyer 7 on my computer a few days ago and it is working but I downloaded it on my wifes computer and clicked on and all it will do is say it is connecting but it has not yet. I've left it run for an hour and it will not connect. Any ideas about the problem?

I down loaded Expolyer 7 and find that S/W has serious problem ;
Using press down CTRL and click left button on mouse to chose multiple folder do not works .
By press down CTRL and click left button on mouse
IE7 going to default web site .

I found that the standard method pre-IE7 of using CONTROL + LEFT CLICK for selecting more than one item on a scroll down list no longer works, but instead opens a new Explorer window. Multiple calls to Microsft Technical Support have been unproductive as they claim that the behaviour is related to the new TAB interface and does not interfere with normal web usage. I am now considering removing IE7 and reinstalling IE6, if that is possible.

I've had my share of problems with IE7, but until now they've been minor. I've either found a solution, or found that I didn't really need the program, or function that I was unable to use. But today I desperately NEED to use my HP document scanner. Thanks to IE7 however it has been reduced to a blubbering photo copier because the HP Director will not open as long as IE7 is on the job. The HP software update will not function, and the so called fix: CIT207355-HPCOM-PATCH-v8.exe will not download. I've been trying for hours to find a solution, but I'm ready to give up. Guess it's time to go back to IE6, or buy a new scanner.

Now I've got to comment from two points of view.

First, from a user point of view. i like IE7. Tabbed browsing is wonderful. Took me a few days to get used to the lack of control buttons, but I got it and like it. Not too fond of the phishing feature because it slows things down.

Second, from a web developer point of view. I've had some problems with existing sites and applications not being compatible. Particularly with JavaScript and CSS. The JavaScript issues suprise me because I would thing Microsoft would at least make things backward compatible.

Soooo...like it from a user angle, am kind frustrated from a developer angle.

Hi everybody,

I am just a web developer, don't know why but I recently someone complain to me about JavaScript problems when generating a dates when a page was viewed in IE 7 under vista.

I don't really fancy the IE's but they are like the women these days, you can't really live with them or without them.

I am not thinking on to updating my system, not for now; I am just wondering has anyone reported something like this, JavaScript issues?

With all the respect the IE lovers

Thanks a lot

Hey Randy J. Have you got an IP blocker installed on your machine (such as PeerGuardian?) I had exactly the same problem but it wasn't HP's fault it was my IP blocker blocking them! Let HP's ftp through and managed to download the file no problem. PS Sorry for v.late reply - I've only just had the problem myself!

I agree that ActiveX should go away, at least for 99% of the internet, and the last 1% should be intranet / otherwise very secure and trusted sites needing extra functionality.

I usually put websites with too many flash and other ActiveX object on the "Untrusted"-zone, and my banks site on the "Trusted"-zone. That way IE never asks me to start an ActiveX on the overloaded pages, and starts the necessary ActiveX-components on my bank site automatically without asking me, and asks me on the rest of the internet.

One problem still persists: I get a warning message and an annoying "bleep" everytime I click an internal link on those untrusted sites, telling me that "The security settings doesn't allow ActiveX-component to run. The page might not be shown correctly." Very frustrating!
I think there should be a "Don't tell me again" checkbox on all of those, or an option in the security setting for each zone.

Microsoft won't ever allow ActiveX to disapear, since it's their brainchild, and (the only?) incentive they have to force internetusers to browse the internet on a computer running Windows, since that's the only OS capable of running ActiveX!

All ActiveX-components could be replaced with Java applications, but then everyone could browse the internet, with whatever OS they prefered! And that can not be tolerated! :-)

/ Algot

i have problem with my internet explorer, wonder who to ask for help. everytime i change to a different site, the explorer closes down and have numerous times sent error report but to no avail of any help? I am using genuine microsoft

i have problem with my internet explorer, wonder who to ask for help. everytime i change to a different site, the explorer closes down and have numerous times sent error report but to no avail of any help? I am using genuine microsoft

problem with my internet explorer, everytime i change to a different site, the explorer closes down and have numerous times sent error report

For those of you who, after downloading ie 7 and can no longer open HP Director and are getting the 0 byte file from the HP web site, here is a direct link to d/l the patch:

http://h30318.www3.hp.com/pub/softlib/software8/COL17377/oj-46104-1/CIT207355-HPCOM-PATCH-v8.exe

Hope this helps...

DrgnMstr - thanks for taking the trouble to post this. Helped me sort out my Mom remotely from 1000's of miles away.

(DrgnMstr): thnx alot man, really appreciate the effort , thnk good i googled it =D

Thanks, DragonMaster, for the link to the HP patch. Fixed my HP Director software - appreciated!

WOOOOT.
THANKS to DrgnMstr.

I try to get the Patch for psc 1350.

Have get it at beginning year, but i build up computer new ang get I.E.6 ....forgot that problemm and upgrade 1 week before to I.E. 7.
And the "old" problem was here again and HP-download will not work.
I must make a homepage for someone with many documents for his job-hunt....and scanner wouldnt work. But now...
1000 thanks from germany.

Don't downlaod that "solution" my ES|ET NOD32 Antivirus found a troyan application while installing!!!!

It is dangerous!!!!!

Alfredo, what's the panic, I just run NOD myself and it was ok. By the way, if NOD told you that it found troyan and it moved it to quarantine you're safe, app was cleaned. It happens all the time when running h*c*ed exe!

I am haveing A lot of trouble with this.Microsoft Internet Explorer it syopes and then startes back up and it taker me off line when this goes on can you help me please.Thank you A lot BY.

I upgraded to IE 7 , Now my e-mail is all header and no content. I will check my e-mail with an older machine and version. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix the problem?

Why does IE 7 "reduce to fit" web pages when in Firefox they print perfectly OK without any reduction? It's a joke.

I downloaded IE7 on an XP system about 2 weeks ago and began to notice two re-occurring problems. On mulitlevel searches. I would select the next level down and, presto, I was delivered to the desktop.
No warning, no error, no message. Just banished to the desktop. On occasion, websites that I had visited prior (on IE6) did not work (befuddling, no connection error, check your internet connections)?
In my short history of using IE7, that was the two problems that I encountered but they were aggrevating enough to warrant backing off to IE6.
The "Add/Remove Programs" seems to have worked without any problems, so far as of 4/12/2008.

How do I get rid of Security Warnings?

"The current web page is trying to open a site in Your Trusted sites list"? How do I get rid of this friggin message which pops up with just about every web page?

Still waiting for MS to deliver on its promises for IE8 regarding customisation of the toolbar. Sorry, but most people don't need to "hate it for a few days before they 'get' it", most people just want to arrange THEIR toolbar buttons in THEIR browsers the way THEY want to, not the way Microsoft wants to based on the preferences of a handful of effete programming snobs who don't really use the Web like the average person does anyway. Microsoft's response to this, two years later? "Menus will be 'more discoverable' in IE8." Thanks for the corporatespeak non-answer. Get it done or watch the rest of your marketshare vanish to Firefox and Opera.

I have a major issue with Internet Explorer 7. My neighbor installed it and it crashed his entire browser, it won't work at all. I even uninstalled it and it still doesn't work. So I got Mozilla Firefox for him, figured that would work, and that even doesn't work, it completely crashed his browser somehow, how do I get it back up? Any help would be appreciated.

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